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Toddlers Today's MomsTalk Archive I just got off the phone with Paris she is having a fabulous time here in Ontario, she's drunk as usual, just kidding, I wrote that cause I know she is going to read all the posts when she gets home. We are going to drive out to Niagara Falls tomorrow to meet her, can't wait. OMG it was sooooo gorgeous in Southern Ontario today, about 80 for all you Americans, we are on metric so it was 25 celcius, I got a little sunburn. My house looks like a cyclone hit it but you know what I don't care cause I spent the whole day outside with my little darling and my hubby. Nathan was sooo cute tonight, I think the last time I let him go without a nap was last summer some time and today I just didn't have the heart to tell him he had to come in to have a nap when all of his friends were outside playing. So about 9 p.m. we finally got him in and he was lying on the couch watching one his movies and he fell asleep, how cute he has never fallen asleep on the couch!, so Sheldon picked him up to bring him to bed and Nathan said that he wanted to watch the rest of his show, so he put his head on Sheldon's lap and fell back to sleep, Sheldon fast forwarded the tape to the end woke Nathan up with the credits rolling and he was happy that he got to "see his movie" went upstairs and fell asleep before I finished my song I was singing to him, how cute, oh I said that already, but he was soo cute. On to Personals: THERESSA - I know you said you don't trust or like HPT, but I would just try one before going to the doctor. Not to discourage you cause if you want another baby I really hope that you are pg, but my educated guess would be that you missed AF due to stress. Hang in there girl. MEG - Nathan just had chicken pox about 3 weeks ago, still has some spots where the chicken pox were ( i only hope they don't scar), cut Hana's nails short, buy some calamine lotion and coat it on like crazy, Aveeno baths also work or you can use straight oatmeal in the washcloth and apply directly to the pox, we gave him benadryl for allergies at bedtime to stop the itching, good luck, and let's hope it is just a mild case. JAMIE - Don't know what to say about Gabe's aggressiveness, are you following through when you punish for this action, I've read that if you don't it can send mixed signals. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. TARA - Isn't it funny how when we teach them manner's we seem to forget ours, very funny about Adriana telling Mommy and Daddy to say Thank-you. Okay that's it for today, talk to you tomorrow. Alice & Nathan email: alicita@idirect.ca Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 00:09:30 (EDT)) MICHELLE - HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO EVAN FROM NATHAN!!!!!!!!!!!! Alice & Nathan email: alicita@idirect.ca Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 00:29:37 (EDT)) Hi from Christi. What a day! I had a baby shower to go to today--a 60 minute drive. I made Dh take me and pick me up, so while we were there we did a little shopping. Finally at 10:30 I am home and almost ready for bed. Boy was Caleb a crab today! Somewhere in the mall he lost the only square of blanket we had with us. He has done very well since we have taken it away again, but he got so sleepy, and finally cried himself to sleep. I hate that! DD had her picture taken withthe Easter Bunny today while I was at the shower, i guess Caleb was too afraid of him. Oh well. Unfortunatly, I didn't take notes on the ton of posts here, so I will try. MICHELLE***Happy B-Day to Evan KATY***Sorry about Liam's ankle! MEG***Poor Hanah with the chicken pox! PATTY***Thanks for the pics, what cuties! WEll guys, sorry, my brain is toast! See you all soon! Christi & Caleb 17 months Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 00:47:39 (EDT)) Julianne here, and what a fun day we had. I took Colton to my sister's to play. She had a friend over to play w/ her daughter so he had lots of fun on the swingset outside. There was a "Young Children and Families" celebration going on in the small town I work in. We took the kids there. They had all kinds of vehicles set up for kids to go through (fire engines, tractors, sheriff's boat, construction equip...) Then at the school there was a petting zoo and craft area set up. Colton had fun petting the bunnies. I had to do the crafts for him. He smeared the spider we had painted on his cheek--so he walked around the rest of the day w/ a big black paint splotch on his face! He was so tired he took a nap from 5-8 again. We had to wake him up to eat supper. Then it was back outside for me fun--golf this time. DH likes to practice on our lawn. Good thing we live in the country--divits or cow patties--no one is too particular about how their lawn in manicured. Better go as everyone is in bed but me. Alice: Too wierd about losing your voice. So how is your little city slicker doing? LOL Pretty smart of Sheldon to fast forward to the credits. I sure am learning some good tricks from this board. Paula: Welcome back. Theressa: At least take the HPT. You can set a dr appt if it is +, and wait a few more weeks if it is -. Tara: Sounds like you have been having fun shopping. What's a pleasure party? Colton will catch us when we forget to pray before we eat. He will put his hands by his eyes and say "pay?". Meg: Have you tried Aveeno baths yet. It really works good. I suffered from PUPPPS after I had Colton and it was one of the few things that would help the rash-so I know from personal experience. Kahne: Oops, I just found out I have been saying your name all wrong (Cane!) Sorry, our snow's all gone, thanks for sending the sunshine though. Nite Nite. Julianne & Colton 21 mo email: jjones@howardmiller.com Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 00:53:03 (EDT)) Good evening everyone, Well I am sure that most of you on the east coast are sleeping already, but here on the west coast I have just finally found some peace. I finally had a chance to read some of the personals so... Theressa-I would definetly go and have a test, I know of at least five peolpe who are walking around today, even though their mother's were using IUD's. Jamie-You are not alone with the violent baby. And I agree that it is probably a communication thing. I can watch my sweet, darling baby turn from Dr Jeckyl to Mr Hyde (or vis versa) in 0.2 seconds, and it generally seems to be because he is having a hard time letting us know what he wants. I will admit though, that I have seen the changes when he doesn't get what he wants. He will smack, pinch, scratch and bite. How do you discipline a 17 month old? All opinions are welcome, I feel that I am starting to severly spoil my baby and would like to nip it in the bud. LisaB-Pregnant? Did I read it right? If so CONGRATULATIONS. I'm actually very jealous, DH has stated that he thinks two is enough, but I'm sort of undecided. Alice-Hello to a fellow Canadian. Where in ON are you from. I lived in Toronto for two years and loved it. I'm now in beautiful British Colombia. The weather was great here last week as well, but we seem to be heading back to our almost traditional RAIN. Well I shall depart now, just enough time left to sort of get the house clean. Has any one figured out the secret of how to squeeze an extra 3 hours into the day. If you have let me know (lol). paula&kids Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 02:29:04 (EDT)) Hi, it's Michelle. I just spent a zillion hours updating toddlerfriends. If you want to see it go to http://members.xoom.com/wowsmom/ I've included a few new things and would LOVE suggestions for other things to add!! If you have new info you would like to submit - or pictures. Please do!! Funny stories about our Toddlers would be great also. THANKS. Michelle, Evan and Riley email: mwells@telusplanet.net Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 03:16:12 (EDT)) HI everyone, Meg & Hana here: Well, Hana is doing much better, she is finally asleep now, so I can quickly catch on whats happening. I think that the rash is definetly mild. Thank goodness. There are no big rashes just small little bumps mostly over the bottom and legs and little on the chest and arms. I hope this is the pox. I suppose that the only way to really confirm is a blood test ---- not worth it. But I do know that mild versions do exist. Anyway, personals: Kahne, Missippi, gosh that sounds so "layed" back. It does get hot here. I have to laugh when you all say 25 celsius is hot --- thats considered mild here. 17 is considered cold here. 17 is normally our winter weather --- dropping to 11 and then further down to about 6 in the middle of winter at night though. BUT (and you may laugh) I have never seen snow before. So I can't really amagine what its like. Is it like the freezer??? Our hot temps usually go up to 36 celsius --- this last summer was really hot. I hate the heat but I love the bright light. My moods seem to be determined by how much light is outside --- if its overcast then I feel somewhat miserable. Do they have special lights in Canada to help out when its all overcast and dark in the winter??? Just wondered. Theressa: I had an old friend from years ago who told me that her daughter was born holding the IUD. Don't hold me to this, I don't know how it could possibly be true but I suppose the point is that the IUD did not work for her. But have the test done anyway, even the urine test as a cheaper option. Paula: An extra 3 hours. Sorry I have no idea how to get this. I can't remember who mentioned the little boy Nathan watching his movie and then fast forwarding to the credits. How cute!! Aren't they just amazing. My DH just went to get Hana the video "A Bugs's Life" Hana is absalutely engrossed in bugs. We had to buy her these big plastic toy bugs. She loves them. If there's a bug in the house then she runs and points to it and jumps up and down (her way) and we have to pick it up and take it outside. We don't kill bugs in the house --- especially in front of her. But this is the NO1 bug queen.She runs to get a fly-swatter (which we bought for her) so she could shoo them away and things like that. These toy bugs of hers are everywhere. When we have visitors they all get introduced with a bug. We pack her bugs in the bookcase --- she no longer unpacks the bookcase. She's so clever though. We don't realise how we impact on her life because the other night my DH asked me where the tv control was and I couldn't find it and then she found it. She picked it up and said "There!" We were so amazed because we had actaully forgotten it by then. She's mouthing words alot though. Just the sound and not the actual word. Everyday she amazes us. Its so cute. Anway, have a good day all. Meg Meg & Hana (16.5 months) email: yoshi@iafrica.com Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 08:52:14 (EDT)) Hello from Helen&Amanda!! Personals first-- Michelle- the bark mulch is for around the shrubs in the front of the house- easier to keep up with without having to mow and trim around the bushes and flowers- a little weeding though. Katy- Hope Liam is doing better- so sad to see them hurting. :O( Patty- wow-guess your glad its the weekend- hope the aide is back on Monday!!( no subs for the aides when they're sick?? Paula-- yes we remenber you-- hope you stick around- yes- when you have the second baby you wonder why you thought it was so hard-- two is much harder-- fun though! Meg-- I will be right over- Amanda hasn't had the chicken pox shot yet and I have the option to wait until she enters a playgroup or pre-school and its required- I'm hoping she just gets it and we can avoid the shot- so does the doc. Hope Hana is better soon!!! Theressa- I would call the doc and find out what might be the reason for the missed period to put your mind at rest. Michelle-- I will check out the site!! Have to go-- will try and chat later- hope everyone is having a great weekend!! Helen&Amanda@20mos(DS@14yrsDD@12yrs) email: MHIM27@worldnet.att.net Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 10:14:59 (EDT)) Hello everyone! straight to personals: Kahne - Thank you for the welcome, it is nice to hear from another student mom. On your post to Theresa, i think you may have IUD mixed up with Norplant, because an IUD is just a copper wire with no hormones. Norplant does contain progesterone (like depo), and when I had it for five years, I had periods that lasted for 3 weeks! Just my luck, most people dont have one at all. I hate birth control! Do I remember you writing that you are from New Orleans? I am so envious! The Quarter is one of my favorite places in the world, and my older brother graduated from Tulane. Alice - I follow through everytime...I think I just need to be patient and wait to see the results. Thank you for the response! Paula - Thank you for letting me know that I am not the only one! The most comforting thing I try to remember about Gabe is that toddlers are only operating in the preconventional stage of morality, and judge right and wrong by punishment or reward, not an inner sense of ethics. In my opinion (which may not hold much weight considering I was just asking for opinions!) the best form of discipline is consistant consequences appropriate for the behavior. Its kind of like working out, I guess, in that you have to give time to see the results, but they are definately worth it! Is it just me, or is the irony of my giving advice about a question I just asked quite apparant? Oh, well! Sorry to ramble, talk to ya'll later, Jamie and Gabe (14 months) email: zeppelin2@msn.com Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 14:05:41 (EDT)) Jamie, you're absalutely right. I agree with the same method of discipline. But being consistent and not saying no to something more than once is important. We just destract Hana when we can tell that she is figuring out something that she shouldn't do. It can be quite funny though. My desk has a box under it where I keep all my papers. But behind the box is all the cables and open plugs coming from the computer and scanner and all ---- she loves to climb over the box ---- one of those plastic toy boxes, quite big. She knows that she is not allowed under the table. My maid (we have maids here in SA --- just incase you're wondering ---- climbs under to plug in the vacuum cleaner and Hana protested to her one day ---- pointing and going aaaa ---- we had to pretend that Alice was being naughty and not allowed under the table. Hana just nodded her head afterwards. We were all laughing but this was her way of saying that she is beginning to understand. I can't stand it when little two year olds are getting smacked for not putting their toys away. The child is still in the process of trying to understand what is right and what is wrong and what is expected from her. I've seen parents loose themselves and smack the child silly. I once saw a women hit her son in the shopping mall because her son was trying to ask for his juice. She smacked him because he was holding onto her pulling at her top. This other women walked passed and told her not to hit her son like that. This women starting hitting this women. But this women her hit her son was obviously brought up being hit aswell. I've heard of women who use a needle and prick the childs hands everytime the child touches something they shouldn't touch. Good grief, what type of messages are they passing onto the child. We make a point of telling parents that under no circumstances will we ever hit Hana. It's just so sad that there are many children who are being hit under very bad circumstances. Well, now that I"ve spoken my mind ---- I must get on to some serious e-mailing. Sleep well all! Meg Meg & Hana (16.5 months) email: yoshi@iafrica.com Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 18:25:16 (EDT)) Hi mommies. Yesterday was so beautiful here - 73 and sunny, but with lots of white clouds in the sky. Jarin got to play outside quite a bit. He was out again this morning. He really likes the sandbox and of course, he loves just following Jesse around doing whatever he is doing. Jarin has been waking up around 5:30 again the past few days. I really hope this is just a stage and he gets back to sleeping until 6:30 or 7:00. That was early enough! **Alice: Nathan sounds so cute with the animals and trying to feed them. I'm sure he had lots of fun seeing the "chickens" and the "pigs". LOL. I will send you some pics - don't have any with the sunglasses on yet. And thanks for making fun of me for my novels. Makes me feel really good about myself. LOL. Yep, 20C is about 70. I learned that from writing to Mary in Australia. We're always trying to figure out how to translate the temps into the right degrees. That is my favorite weather! So, hey, was Nathan cute falling asleep on the couch or what? LOL. What a smart DH to fast forward the tape. I probably would never have thought of that! **Julianne: Sorry to hear that Colton hasn't adjusted to the new schedule yet. I'm sure he will in a few days. Too cute that he swats your hand away and then falls back to sleep. =) Jarin does the exact same thing as Colton about praying at dinner. He sits in his high chair, looks at all of us, folds his hands, and says "pairs?" **Paula: Welcome back to you, Kyla, and caelen. Moriah has been really busy, but last we heard, Alex is doing great!! **Theressa: Sounds like I need to go back to check out your site again if you already made some changes. Some day I hope to set up a site for my family. Don't know what to tell you about the hormones. You could always TRY an at home test, but since you said you don't trust them, if you really want to know, I'd just ask your Dr, just to "make sure". **Meg: Hope poor little Poxy Hana is feeling better today. When Jaime got the chicken pox, she was just over a year old , and she only had a few in her diaper area too. Jesse, on the other hand, had them from head to toe, and was covered in his private area. Poor little guy was miserable for two days and then he started to do better. We used Aveeno cream, even in the private area. Yes, I love those little nighttime tender times. My favorite of the day! **Jamie: Jarin hasn't been violent, but some others have posted similar problems. Hopefully they will be able to give you some good advice. **Kahne: Glad to see you got caught up! Looking forward to seeing some pics of Cat when you get them. =) **Christi: Hope you get some sleep. So sad that Caleb lost his "blankie". =( **Michelle: Heading over to check out the additions right now. I can't wait! I'm going to send a couple more pics if that's ok. **Helen: Subs for aides? Well, I guess I did get a little help from our Special teacher, but for the most part, no way. You just get to deal with it without any help. They had to give me some help because when Matt (my little guy with MD) has to go to the bathroom it takes at least 15 minutes. **Take care all! Patty and Jarin 19 1/2 months email: tematheny@ctlnet.com Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 18:42:55 (EDT)) Hi Ladies. Whoever is hogging the good weather, STOP!!!!! We are having yucky weather and Riley is mad because he can't go out all the time. Send some sun to us. Riley is talking so cute. (Yes, bragging ahead) He has this little voice that just melts my heart. If I tell him to be good or stop what he is doing he'll say "okay". Of course that doesn't mean he stops, he just says the words.LOL He got into trouble because he was being mean to the caregivers 11 month old son. So the other a.m. we were laying in bed and he told me "Tanner is bad baby". I asked why and he said "Tanner touch Me me's LaLa." Riley calls himself me me. He had taken his Teletubby with him and got mad when the baby touched it. She told me he had not hit Tanner, Riley just took his hand off of the toy. We laughed when he wasn't around about it, but I did tell him not to touch Tanner and that it would be nice for him to share LaLa. We watch the Teletubby vidoe so much that I can now recite every word. Riley is starting to ;like Barney now too. On PBS the show Zoomafoob interests him too. He loves that monkey. Does anyone else out there watch that one? Paula***Moriah is my younger sis. Alex is doing really good. He is extremly smart and is getting around the house. He's not into crawling on his tummy, so he scootches on his back. She just had pics taken and will probably start e-mailing some around. Everytime I talk to her, he has learned something new. Well, I've got to go to a swimteam board meeting in half an hour and I look like hell! Please, please, send us some sunshine! Have a good one. Shelly & Riley 2 yrs. Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 20:36:48 (EDT)) Hi everyone! It's Paris! I have missed so much in 3 or 4 or is it 5 days? I don't know. Just having a ton of fun here! :0) Quinn was not pleasant on the plane. I am not looking forward to the flight back. She also hasn't been sleeping. Either have I actually. LOL The last three nights I've been out with friends. I've had a great time but I'm ready to go home. I'm used to my little town with lots of space and no people and there are just tons of people here. haha. Anyway, I actually didn't read the posts there were just too many. I do have a few personals though. Helen: The cat was seriously dying but not that second or anything. He has been sick on and off. Peter took him to the vet, there was nothing they could do. We knew there wasn't anything cuz the last vet said if it came back he would have to be put down. So he passed on to kitty heaven or whatever. The kids were okay with it, they understand I think. I had been talking to them about it and Peter did as well. Alice: Mary and I didn't hear the phone ring so I'm assuming that you didn't call. :0) It was rainy anyway. We were up talking at 11 am and decided it was a good idea to go back to bed. LOL We both slept til 4!!! Oh, well it was a lot of fun last night. My sister had Quinn so that was great. I'll tell ya all about my wild night when I call ya in a few minutes. :0) Anyway, I gotta give my buddy here a call and see if he wants to get together later. I just thought I would check in and see what was up! I'm off to have some more fun before I need to go back to reality! I'll check in again when I get a chance. Paris and Quinn email: pariscosby@hotmail.com Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 21:13:11 (EDT)) Hello Everyone! Darleen here! Alice- You are right, the weather was absolutely gorgeous yesterday, but today was crappy again. We all had shorts and t-shirts on, and went for a bike ride down to the lake. Didn't go swimming of course. How was your visit with Paris? Paris- I'm sorry, I forgot all about getting together with you guys! I feel bad! Sorry! :( All three of us went into Toronto for the day for a change of scenary. It was great, we took the go-train in. I'm glad to hear you are having a great time back in Ontario. Sorry to hear your flight wasn't so great with Quinn, hopefully going home will be a better trip. Enjoy the rest of your visit here!! Meg-Sorry to hear your little one has chicken pox, better to get it over with now. I hope she is feeling better soon. Christi- Poor Caleb losing his blanket, it would be the end of the world for us if Nolan lost his soother while we were out. I'm hoping to take Nolan to see the Easter Bunny this week-end while we are at both parents for Easter. I'm not sure how he will react! We had a great few days at my parents. I'm sure Nolan tired my parents out, and were glad to see us leave. He is a very busy boy. My mom and I went yard/garage saleing, and bought Nolan a little Tykes Kitchen set. He loves it. He has played with it ever since we got back. I know it is for girls, but friends of ours have one, and that is all he plays with whenever we go and visit, so I decided what the heck boys can play in a kitchen also. So I bought him one, and Dh didn't care. Mind you...... I was a little nervous bringing it home, I wasn't sure what Dh would think. Today we spent the day in Toronto, we took the go-train in, Nolan loved it. He was as good as gold without a nap, but he finally gave in on the way back, he fell asleep on the train in Dh's arms. I had to take a picture, it was just too cute to resist!! Bed time for Nolan. Have a great night, and a great week. HAPPY EASTER!! Darleen & Nolan email: jndsmith@sprint.ca Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 21:39:06 (EDT)) Sorry I forgot 2 personals: Welcome Jamie and Lee-al (my cousin) I hope you enjoy the TT board. Have a great night and week! HAPPY EASTER!! Darleen & Nolan email: jndsmith@sprint.ca Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 21:44:04 (EDT)) Hi ladies, Charline & Hayden here. We went to church this a.m. and didn't realize it was going to be such a long Mass. It was 1 1/2 hours. They had a play about Jesus's last days. Anyway, Hayden was not happy to have to be sitting so long. So, halfway through, he kept on putting his hands in the air as if to say all done. Dh and I were laughing so hard. He does this everytime he is finished eating. Hayden and I are going on his first trip by plane on Thursday to visit my family in NJ. I'm very nervous about this. Does anyone have any pointers for me? He is going to be sitting on my lap. Rebecca-I remember you from the BT board. Happy 17 month Birthday to Paige! Your townhouse sounds great! Michelle-Thanks for the welcome. Hayden sends hugs right back to you guys. Julianne-I hope that Tequilla does ok with the shots for heartworm. Did the vet say that if all goes well that she will be cured after the shots and blood test? Colton sounded like he had a lot of fun at the Young Children & Families celebration. Patty-Thanks for the welcome. I loved the pictures of your boys. They are so cute together! Congrats to Jesse & Jaime for getting straight A's! Jarin sounds so cute peeking at you through his fingers. Theressa-Marcus sounds too cute running around and saying butt butt. Moe-A.J. sounds too cute saying Hi Mom when he came around the corner. Alice & Moe-I got the chills reading your stories. I believe in spirits and get freaked out easily, especially when I'm alone. LisaB-It is exciting to see those first steps! Max sounds like such a cutie watching the parents as a teacher lady go to her car with a look of concern. Meg-Thanks for the congrats for Hayden's first steps. Hayden does the same thing that Hana did ans will grab my fingers to walk with him. Wow, the chicken pox! I hope that she gets over it quickly. Glad to hear that she is feeling better. Shelley-That's great that Jim will adopt Riley. Riley sounds so cute on his tractor. Sarah-Hannah sounds so cute yelling at her daddy's softball game. Beth-Thanks for welcome. I hope your lip heals quickly for you. Sue-Hope your cold goes away quickly. Cam sounds so cute playing with the cat. Welcome Jaime & Gabe! Katy-Glad to hear that Liam just has a sprain. I hope that it heals quickly. Alice-Nathan sounds cute feeding the animals. Kahne-I'm glad to be here. We are doing great. Tricia-Yay for Kylie going on the toilet 4 times! Sorry that this is so long. I hope that everyone has a good night. Charline & Hayden(1 year) email: charline@mediaone.net Sunday, April 16, 2000 at 23:16:28 (EDT)) Boo Hoo, the weekend is almost over! Julianne here, and I'm not ready for Monday yet. Colton was such a funny little boy all weekend. Full of laughs and grins. DH came in the house and called for me by yelling "honey". So Colton kept calling for me the same way too, except it was more like "h-ahhhh-ne". He has such a cute accent sometimes. Good news: Colton is finally all done w/ his bottles. I stopped them completely around Wednesday and he hasn't been given one since. He still asks once in a while, but I just tell him that they are all gone and he can have a sippy instead. His other funny thing is to call other older boys and men guys. He will say "bye guys" when the neighbor kids ( 12 & 15)leave or to DH's friends. It sounds so cute coming from him. Sorry for rambling, but I just love this stage in his life. It is so much fun. Meg: My sister's girl is a bug lover too. She has no fear in pickig up grasshoppers and praying mantis (hoppers & greenies). She will go on about how she has to be a mommy to the little bugs. Patty: We still need to get Colton a sandbox. I am afraid that I will never be able to get him inside if we do though. Shelly: Colton is another Zaboo fan. He doesn't get to watch it much anymore because I am supposed to leave by the time it starts now. If I hear it come on I know I am late for work! Paris: Glad you are having a fun trip. Hope Quinn is better on the plane ride back. Darleen: I wish someone had bought my DH a kitchen set to play w/ when he was little. The only thing he cooks are hotdogs-Yuck! Charline: Too cute about Hayden showing you church should be over. Tequila goes to the vet for her treatment Wednesday. They can't test her again until 4 months later to see if it worked. Ok, time for me to hit the sack. Good night. Julianne & Colton 21 mo email: jjones@howardmiller.com Monday, April 17, 2000 at 00:18:39 (EDT)) Hello Everyone from Alice and Nathan, Well I guess you are all wondering how our day went with Paris, but unfortunately we didn't get to meet today, Paris was too hung over from last night, just kidding Paris (lol), no we didn't get to meet because I had some last minute schedule changes we had to go to my parents house today because Nathan had something important to tell his grandparents, are you ready ladies. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG I HAVE GOOSEBUMPS JUST TYPING THIS I AM SOOOO EXCITED YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH, CAN YOU TELL I'M HAPPY. SARAH - All I can say is I guess I was definitely wrong about thinking AF was coming, I have to tell you something funny, okay you didn't mention DH's name was Nathan, and my Nathan has decided that if we have a girl her name should be Hannah, too weird, is your middle name Alice? JULIANNE - Sheldon is right, I am weird because today the voice is fine. Thanx for asking, and too cute about Colton smearing the spider paint all over his face. lol PAULA - Hi! I am in Mississauga I'm sure you know where that is, basically in the north end close to Brampton/Mississauga border. MEG - It was me mentioning Sheldon's video trick with Nathan, I don't find it unbelievable about you not seeing snow, because my DH is from Trinidad, he moved to Canada when he was 4 so he didn't understand or ever heard of snow, when he landed in Canada in January, he looked at his Dad and said, "Oh I understand we have brown sand in Trinidad for brown people and white people have white sand." Sand, I wish that's what it was! You asked if it was similar to a freezer? Multiply that by 100 in February, that's winter here. One of the downfalls about Canada. DARLEEN - I'm sure you will know by now that I didn't get to hook up with Paris, I'm very happy for you that DH didn't say anything about the Kitchen Set, my DH would flip, one of the neighbours girls has one and when she brings it out Nathan wants to play with it I don't mind, DH doesn't say anything, but I know he doesn't like it too much. I have to go to bed ladies, I'm tired and I have to work tomorrow, yuck, still waiting for that lottery winning. LOL Alice & Nathan email: alicita@idirect.ca Monday, April 17, 2000 at 00:48:35 (EDT)) Hi there everyone, Well I am in agreement with not wanting the weekend to end. I hate having to go to work, I am sooo jealous of all you SAHM. They have just announced with this years budget, that as of Jan/01, maternity leave will change from 6 months to 1 year here in Canada (that's approx 18 mnths to late for me), but I am happy for all of the soon to be mommies. Shelley and Patty- Thank you for the update on Moriah and Alex, I feel kind of wierd asking, but I got kind of attached to a few people on the mommy's to be board. At times I believed that they got me through some of the rougher patches of my pregnancy. I am also especially glad to hear that they are doing so well. My dh was complaining the other day, that if he spends another day with either a barney or a teletubbie song running through his head that he will lose his mind. We have taken to renting a new one every week, so that at least we (meaning me and DH) can have some variety. I don't remember Kyla being interested in tv that young. I seem to remember that it was the Lion King that first caught her eye, and she was about 2 1/2 when that came out on video. But Caelen, (sigh) he will literally cry out BAHNEY BAHNEY!! (and it sounds so cute). Well I must get on with it, once again it's 10:00pm and I still have at least an hours worth of things to do. I am not sure that having internet access at home is such a great thing. LOL!!!! Talk to you later, Paula & Kids Monday, April 17, 2000 at 02:20:47 (EDT)) Hey girlys!!! It's Moriah & Alex!! Boy was I pissed this morning!! Last night I was up late & was composing a MONSTER post. I got tired before I finished so rather than post a partial I left it so I could finish in the am. Well I forgot that Sunday mornings my Scan Disk thing runs - so my computer froze & I lost the whole thing! UGH! SO MAD!!! Okay - I'm ready to move on! LOL I just emailed out new pics of Alex that I had taken yesterday (email me of you want one). Boy was he a monster! He's such a toddler these days - temper tantrums & all. We are learning fast that he is all toddler inside that head of his! Just becuase he size is deceiving - he's definately not a baby anymore! Also in my email was my pitch about the March Of Dimes Walk America at the end of this month. Remember birth defects strike EVERY segment of society - no one is safe. Until they can at least pin point the causes of them they will continue to devestate families. Please help & either participate or sponsor someone who is! www.modimes.org Ouch! I just feel off my soap box! LOL Alex update: He is just so much fun!! He's now walking while we hold onto his hands. He loves that & can do it for hours or until mommy & daddy fall over from exhaustion! LOL He's just doing so great. He's also eating a lot of foods by mouth (still will not drink anything so it all goes in the tube). He weighs over 17lbs now & is about 28 1/2" inches - I cannot even picture 3lbs 12oz anymore! Alex is having 2 surgeries coming up on 4/25 & again on 5/12. Please keep him in your thoughts on those days. Hopefully after those he'll be done for a long time. We are also coming upon a very SPECIAL anniversary! On May 6, 2000 Alex will have managed to be out of the hospital for a YEAR! Only his surgeries and/or scheduled visits! No admissions for illnesses! It feels so good & you bet that we will be celebrating!! On to the personals (some may be old as I've been taking notes for a week!): Louise - where are you? Hope all is well! Sue - hope your lips are better! OUCH! I'd be honored to do your invitations! Lisa B; CONGRATULATIONS!!!! Another HEATHLY Boy! that is so wonderful!!!! Words cannot express how happy I am that everything looks okay with the baby! What's his name? Beth - you're right before Alex my house was clean & I was rested!! LOL I hope that your boo boo heals soon! Moe, Meg & Jamie - WELCOME! Also to any other new mommy that I missed! Theresa - One of my friends has an IUD & she is constantly thinking she's pregnant - but she never is. Also, the IUD is not hormonal (I think someone had it confused with Norplant). Basically it irritates the lining of the uterus so that a baby cannot implant. So it doesn't keep the sperm from fertilizing the egg - it just makes it so it cannot implant & grow. There is a low risk of PG - but with those PG's a high incidence of birth defects. So if you continue to feel prego you should get it checked out, I think there's an increased risk of tubals also. Paula - I'm here! I just do not get to post as much as I'd like! So glad you're back! I know what you mean about the spoiling. I always said that we would spoil Alex - boy did we do a GOOD job! He's so naughty sometimes! Charline - WOW I cannot believe that Hayden is already one! Welcome to the "Other Side" LOL! So glad you've joined us! Michelle - everyone is saying happy birthday to Evan but I do not see a post mentioning it from you? I'm sorry if I missed it! I couldn't make chat last night as we ended up having company for dinner. Alice - CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! What great news! Rita - where did our sunshine go? It sure has poored here all day. How's Amy's nights going? Hopefully better! Alex has good & bad ones. 2 nights ago he was up from 2-5. But fortunately he only wants daddy so mommy drifts back into dreamland! Helen - OMG I can relate to your frustration with DH popping in all day! If Geoff isn't fishing he's around working on the gear or the boat. So he pops in ALL day. Sometimes to make a mess aka:eat lunch & of course right after I've spent an hour cleaning the kitched or he just comes in to visit. Totally disrupts whatever I'm doing! We have TOO much togetherness sometimes! LOL Beth - please email me I do not have your address so you didn't get the new pics! Well I better go, Alex needs to eat again. At least I finally got this typed & posted! I think I should start using Word Pad & then I could post more! Chat again soon! Moriah & Alex (18 months) email: geoffandmoriah@msn.com Monday, April 17, 2000 at 02:41:01 (EDT)) Hi, Paris again! I didn't take notes, there were just too many. I can remember a few though. Paula: Where in BC do you live? I live in Southern Alberta. It's a tiny little town of 300 about an hour and a bit from the BC border. Nice to see another Canadian on here. :0) Alice: Congratulations!!! I guess we won't be partying while I'm here! I told you to wait until after. Geez! I'm kidding, I'm really happy for you! I'm going out with my friend tomorrow night so I can ask him if maybe he wants to take a run up there. We were both too whipped to go out tonight. That might be fun to do that eh? Darleen: Sounds like you had a great day in Toronto. I was in no shape to meet people anyway. LOL And, my sister didn't drop Quinn off til after 5. I don't see a problem with a little guy that wants a kitchen set. I have 2 girls and a boy so I have dolls, cars, everything and they all play with all of it. OH MY GOD, I totally didn't tell you guys, well I don't think I did. My son came up to me the other day and told me he was gay! LOL I said oh, ya? He said yup, I'm gay. I said well, that's good honey. I think he's been watching a few too many episodes of Will and Grace. I asked him if he knew what being gay was which he didn't and I didn't know really how to explain it without confusing him. I'll wait til he's a bit bigger. Anyway, Quinn is seeming a bit more comfortable with people here. It scared her at first cuz she didn't remember anyone and they were running up and hugging her and stuff. She's getting way too spoiled too. :0) Oh, did someone get hit in the face with a baseball? I just read the posts from the last two days. I sorta pieced it together through there! Whoever it was, I hope you are okay! Well, I should go to bed. I'll see you ladies later! Paris and Quinn (21 months on the 23rd) email: pariscosby@hotmail.com Monday, April 17, 2000 at 02:55:10 (EDT)) Hello from Helen&Amanda!! Well it was so nice here on Saturday--- got all the mulch done, moved some bulbs that were in the wrong spot and planted a couple more things----- love these spring days!! yesterday was also nice-sunny and cloudy on and of- today is a holiday here--- the kids have this week off from school- Apr. vacation week. We are going to Canada this week to visit my family-- Thurs--- Monday. We went out Friday night to dinner w/friends- it was the guy's b-day. We went to a BYOB restaurant- the food was excellent but such a dive- it was packed- we got there- put our name in and stood on the sidewalk drinking wine while we waited-- so strange- I was waiting to be arrested since drinking in public is not allowed but I guess since the place has been there for years they don't say anything-- good time!! Then on Sat night we had a dinner to go to at the PAV in town---( Polish American Veterans)-- for a buffet , drinks and dancing- only got home @ 2:30--- that was fun- everyone seemed to be there- you know these small towns- everyone knows everyone!! Yesterday DH had some guys over to work on his bike-- they watched a race on TV, had a few beers , listened to DVD's on the surround sound, and had a cook-out--- I took the kids and DS's friend and went to the mall- got a few things- was relaxing! So today is the 'Boston Marathon' and we are supposed to go to see it but I would rather stay home and 'veg'!!! We'll see. My dryer died and I have to wait until tomorrow for the guy to look at it- I've been hanging clothes to dry--- and then ironing them--- hope it is some little thing b/c if it needs a part I will have to go to the laundromat to use the dryer until it is ordered and repaired!! On to personals----- Paris- sorry about the Kitty- I'm sure she is happy in 'kitty heaven'! Sorry the plane ride was not good-- hope its better on the way home. Christi--- oh- that must have been terrible- I've had to buy a 'binky' one time- couldn't find it while we were out-- Amanda has a blankie- cloth diapers- I keep them tucked everywhere- she 'NEEDS' it to sleep and snuggle! Jamie-- WELCOME!! Meg---Jamie---- I agree- consistency is the answer--- then they learn to listen and your not talking like a broken record making yourself crazy---- I have to say- a swat on the butt now and then does get there attention when they become out of control-- repeated swatting is not acceptable in my opinion-- then I think the parent needs one! Patty- Amanda loves the sand too--- We have subs for aides at school--- they are parents that sign-up for it and get called in when someone is out sick--- I am thinking of doing it when Amanda gets in first grade so I will have the same schedule as she does-- it pays $75/ day-- I think thats really good! Charline-- I read an article about airplanes and this couple just happened to buy a seat for their baby instead of sitting her on their lap-- something happened on the flight and the mother and 12 year old in the seat in front of them were killed- they only had a scratch---- they said 'we think our DD's life was worth $200. Really made me think--- thank God they had a seat for her--- We just went to Fla and Amanda had a seat- brought her car seat- she has to be next to the window ( Delta) and she fell asleep there and back-- she never would have if she was sitting on me.( they say in a crash or turbulance- a small child or baby on your lap gets thrown around like luggage and its impossible to hold on to then-- don't want to scare you but I think its important. I brought snacks for her and juice boxes and 'quiet' toys-LOL!! Have fun!!:O) Shelly-- thats great about the adoption-- hope it goes smoothly!! Charline-- too cute about church being all done-- I hear him!! I don't like the long masses either! Alice-- CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! Moriah---- Send pics to me too!! ( new e-mail below). Yes DH just popped in for coffee!! I love it when he tiptoes from one end of the house to the other and leaves dirt along the way-- then says--"oh-- was that me??" UUHH!! What is Alex having done this month and next??( i think you already said but of course I forgot!). Paris-- too funny about DS being gay!! As long as in 10 yrs he doesn't do it again!!LOL!! When we went out on Fri the kids made popcorn- when it was gone Amanda turned the bowl upside down and put it on her head-- full of butter on the bottom!!! The kids had to give her a bath! Amanda just loves the neighbours dog Sasha-- opens the door and lets her in the house!! Then runs behind her laughing and yelling 'Shusha'--too cute! She is trying to repeat some things now-- if she can't say the word she starts with her list of things she can say,cute. DS taught her to say 'no way'!! So she loves to yell this when she is not happy about what is going on--- not a good thing in public! :O) Well thats enough of me- have a good day!!! Helen&Amanda@20mos(DS@14yrsDD@12yrs) email: MHIM27@worldnet.att.net Monday, April 17, 2000 at 09:28:24 (EDT)) Good morning ladies..SARAH here. Geez, you gals were BUSY this weekend!!! It always takes forever to catch up on Monday's. I actually tried to get on the computer at home this weekend, but couldn't. :( Oh well! We had a good weekend. Nothing special, though. It's so funny, it was 78 here last Friday, then snowed like crazy on Sunday, then 75 yesterday, and 80 today!!!! CRAZY!!!! We played outside all day yesterday. Had alot of fun. We also went to look at mattresses. Ours is killing our backs! Then afterwards we went to Sofa Mart, and HANNAH had sooo much fun going up to all of the "fake animals" in there and hugging them and kissing them. Had a ball!! She also was given a balloon...which she loved. Then we went to get some take out (a place where DH used to work). HANNAH was flirting with everyone! I love it when she's that way. Everyone gets a kick out of her! :) Well, I'd better get on to personals: ALICE - CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!! Well, you sure did fool me! :) That's great news. And, too funny about the whole name thing. No, my middle name isn't ALICE! LOL Way too weird about the sore throat, etc. Freaky. Speaking of dreams, I had a TERRIBLE one on Saturday night. Woke up crying, and scared to death. DH wasn't home from work yet, so I just layed there until he got home. Actually, I'm 28 (29 in a month). So, I've been naughtyless for a while (well, sort of...:) BETH - OUCH!!! How is it today? SUE - CAM is a big boy!!! That's great! KATY - Sorry about LIAM!! YOU ARE NOT A BAD MOM!!! It happens to the best of us! JAMIE and GABE - WELCOME!! HANNAH has never really scratched to where it's a problem. MICHELLE - How was the movie? I'll check out the website after this. Thanks for all of your hard work! PATTY - Obviously HANNAH loves attention!! LOL (Read post above). JULIANNE - That's great no more bottles. We really have to work on it. I'm afraid it's gonna be hard cause she goes to sleep with a bottle. Sorry D/C messes up his schedule. That's got to be frustrating. PAULA - Welcome back!! Of course I remember you. THERESSA - You're welcome for signing the guest book! :) I'd get checked out. I got preggo on the pill!! MEG - Poor HANA!!! I'll bet you're having fun!!!!! (NOT!!) TARA - How was the party? PARIS - Sorry QUINN was not so good on the plane. I know HANNAH would be too. (Probably) CHARLINE - Too cute about HAYDEN "all done" in church! LOL :) MORIAH - Hey girl! I'm doing a walk for Children's Hospital in a couple of months. They're holding it in Stuart's name (my cousin that passed away last summer)!! ALEX will definitely be in my thoughts and prayers in his upcoming surgeries! HELEN - Sounds like you had a fun weekend! :) Well ladies, I'd better start some work. Talk to you all later. GO AVALANCHE!!!! (Colorado's Hockey Team) :) Sarah and Hannah (19 months) email: smoore@geatoir.cfer.com Monday, April 17, 2000 at 10:44:22 (EDT)) Hello ladies~Christi here. Hope you all had a nice week-end. Sunday was kind of a lazy nasty weather day, but the evening held a nice surprise--thanks Darleen! HELEN***Hope it is a minor dryer problem! ALICE***Congratulations! MORIAH***So glad to hear Alex is doing well! I will be thinking of him and praying for you guys on his surgery dates. I will go check out march of dimes to see what I can do.:-) JULIANNE***Yeah! for no more bottles for Colton!! CHARLINE*** Good luck onyoru trip, wea re going to Fl. in Oct and Caleb will be sitting on our laps (4 adults plus DD) I am getting nervous tho. LEE-AL*** Welcome! I hope you enjoy the company!! SHELLY*** Zoomafoob, we used to see parts of it, but when I heard them teaching creationism we stopped watching. Too bad, looks like a cute show. MEG***I don't agree with your statement "Children being hit under every bad circumstance" maybe I am not sure you meant by it. Anyway, I will leave it at I don't agree. SARAH*** I love it when Caleb is being flirty too! That is so much funner than when they are whinning or crying :-) LISA*** How was your week-end? Can DH and Max feel the baby moving yet? Guess I better go, see you all soon. Oh, Darleen and I wil be on the chat at 2:30 EST today if anyone is interested. Christi & Caleb 17 months email: plumbs@coiinc.com Monday, April 17, 2000 at 12:46:36 (EDT)) WHOOPS! SHELLY*** I meant they were teaching evolutionism, not creationism. I didn't want my kids to get confused with false teachings and beliefs. Christi again Monday, April 17, 2000 at 12:51:18 (EDT)) Hi from LisaB. We had a great weekend. DH ended up getting home around noon on Saturday. Max was so wound up from playing outside that he tossed and turned for over 30 minutes each night before going to sleep. My MIL told us we need to "work with Max" as he was a little grumpy with his cousins Saturday. EXCUSE ME … he had just woke up when they came over and they were ALL over him. They won't give the poor little guy any space - they are right in his face, pushing his little car rather than letting him drive it himself, trying to carry him everywhere, etc. I blew her off - I think Max does well around other kids, as long as the other kids aren't constantly bugging him. I got my hair cut Saturday morning, with Max sitting on my lap. After needing a cut for 2 months I decided that even if they butchered it, it would look better than when I went in - LOL!!! Max was a little angel, sitting on my lap. They put a little cape on him also and he thought it was the coolest thing ever! You guys were busy this weekend so this'll be a monster post. I have a question. How do you all put your toddlers to bed? We have a standard bedtime routine (bath, then a snack and read books with DH, and then Max and I lay down in bed together). We sit on the edge of the bed and talk about what Max did during the day, do hugs and kisses, and then lay down. I sing him a song and then roll over, with my back next to him. He tosses and turns for awhile and then goes to sleep, periodically reaching out to see if I'm still there. I hope to move this to his toddler bed before the baby arrives - him in the bed and me on the floor and then eventually him going to bed completely by himself. Do you guys still rock your kids to sleep, lay down with them, etc. or are they putting themselves to sleep? MOE: Max sounds a lot like AJ. On weekends he eats breakfast right after he gets up (eggs or oatmeal) and then DH and I eat whenever we get around to it. Max will eat his … and then nibble on both of ours!!!! Lee-Al: Welcome!! KATY: I can't imagine keeping a toddler from walking for 3-4 days!! I think I would have to strap Max down in his crib - LOL!!! MICHELLE: I hope you find some relief soon from your headaches. No problem on the web site link - I just appreciate all the time and effort you've put into it!!! The baby is doing great - moving more all the time. It's kinda funny - I'm still not used to it so it constantly takes me by surprise!!! What is the age difference between Evan and Riley? I can see my 2 boys alternating between playing and fighting in a year or so!!!! PATTY: I hope your weekend helped to de-stress you. Max still has problems with steps. He wants to take the big elephant steps going up, leaning WAY back, so you have to hold both his hands to support him. ALICE: Max also screams whenever he has to go inside. He did a nose dive on the concrete yesterday and scraped his nose - a little blood, a lot of tears. He got really mad cause he had to go inside to wash it off and put some Neosporin on it. It's great if Nathan can clean up his own BM messes. If I gave Max a poopy mess to clean up it would probably end up all over the walls, in his hair, etc.!!! Nathan sounds adorable at the petting zoo. M/S is morning sickness - sorry for the abbreviation!! PAULA: I remember you. Welcome back!!! THERESSA: Work should slow down soon. I'm doing a new job I started in December plus 1/2 the work from my prior job plus conducting interviews for a ton of vacant positions. We hope to get all the new staff on board within 3 weeks and then I can transfer a lot of my work to them - YEAH for the decrease in overtime (especially as I'm considered a "professional" and don't get comp time or payment for overtime I work). Why don't you trust over-the-counter pg tests? I've had good luck with them myuself. MEG: Sorry to hear chickpox has hit your household. I hope Hana feels better soon, the poor little angel. JAMIE: Max has started biting again lately, but I think he's just teething. He hits and kicks when he's really mad - like when we make him go inside after playing outside, make him stop playing to change his diaper, etc. I give him a time out (the same as the babysitter) and tell him hitting, kicking, biting, etc. isn't nice and it's against the rules … and then try to ignore him and the behavior, versus drawing additional attention to it. Luckily thou he generally only does it when he's really tired or in the midst of a temper tantrum. TARA: Max also has thick, wide feet and it's hard to find shoes for him. KAHNE: So, has Cat and her DAMN embarrassed you yet??LOL!! ALICE: How funny, tricking Nathan into thinking the movie was over so he would go to bed!!! JULIANNE: The celebration with the vehicles sounds really cool for kids. Colton sounds adorable at the petting zoo. PAULA: Yep, we're expecting a little boy in September!!! PATTY: Lucky you, Max generally gets up around 6 EVERY morning. SHELLY: Riley sounds like Max, not wanting anyone to touch HIS stuff!!! PARIS: I'm sorry Quinn didn't enjoy the flight. DARLEEN: I don't think kitchens are just for girls … I've been looking for one for Max (although MY DH would probably at least grumble a little bit about it). CHARLINE: Hayden sounds adorable at church. Max was "drawing" pictures on the back of the older guy sitting in front of us Sunday (using his finger) … and guy acted like he didn't even notice - LOL!!! Good luck on your flight. JULIANNE: Yeah for Colton giving up his bottle. ALICE: CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! So, when are you due?? PAULA: 1 year of maternity leave? Here in the states we only get 6 weeks (although you can take more, if you have enough leave). MEG: I agree that constant spanking, etc. is abusive. I don't think it's wrong, however, to give an ocassional swat - as long as it's merited, on the rear-end, and it only 1-2 light/moderate hits. For example, I spanked my niece once when she was 3 as, after repeated warnings, she ran out into the street - in front of a car. The 2 swats on her behind got her attention and she never ran into the street again (even thou my sister was VERY upset that I had spanked her DD ... who had ran in the road numerous times before and had "near misses" with vehicles). Just my opinion ... MORIAH: Please let us know how Alex's upcoming surgeries go as you know we'll all be thinking of him YEAH for being out of the hospital for a year. I'm sure there were times you NEVER dreamed you would hit that milestone. We kinda had a girl's name picked out (Amanda Grace - after my grandmother and great-grandmother) but have NOTHING for a boy yet. It took us MONTHS to decide on Max so I know we'll have a hard time this go around. Yeah for Alex wanting daddy in the middle of the night - LOL!!! ALICE: How funny that your son said he's gay!!! What's really sad is not so long ago that would have meant he was just happy!! HELEN: Sounds like you got lots of gardening done. We just plowed up a big garden plot this weekend and worked in a lot of fertilizer (cow manure - a benefit to living on a farm!!!). I can't wait to start planting!!!! I'm considering substitute teaching when all my kids start school - it pays $60+ a day here and the hours would work with the kids' schedules. I agree that it's worth the money to buy a kid a seat on a plane - if car seats are needed in cars they should also be required in planes. Amanda sounds adorable with the popcorn butter in her hair!!! CHRISTIE: No, Max and DH can't feel the baby move yet. I can't wait to see Max's reaction the first time he feels the baby - LOL!!! LisaB & Max (19 mo) & 18 wks pg email: lisa_lab@hotmail.com Monday, April 17, 2000 at 12:56:46 (EDT)) Hello everyone! Its Jamie here. Gabriel is so funny! For some reason, he seems to have a foot fetish, and absolutely loves bare feet. The other day he had his little shovel and was following me around trying to scoop up my bare feet! (I hate shoes) When I would let him get my foot into the shovel he would try to carry them off, with me hopping madly behind. What a weirdo! Julianne - I cant wait until Gabe starts talking...his grunts and screeches are driving me mad! Alice - Congratulations! We are planning on trying again when Gabe is about three. Moriah - I'll send some positive energy your way on the 24th and the 12th. I hope everything goes well, and congratulations on the one year out of the hospital. I have just joined this board, so I am a little uninformed, but you sound very positive and Alex sounds like a very strong little boy. Paris - that is too, too funny about your sone saying he is gay! Helen - I am envious that you can iron...I have an iron, and it has been used twice, both times by guests...I guess I am ironing impaired. I hope you machine gets fixed soon, not having a washing machine is awful, especially with little ones. Meg - I cant stand it when I see parents hitting their children in public...if they are that violent when people are watching, imagine what they do at home. I beleive that violence teaches violence, and that principal holds true for a lot of things. It is always so funny to hear people screaming, STOP SHOUTING! (I've done it myself!) LisaB - we give Gabe a loooong bath, then I nurse, and if he hasn't fallen asleep, my DH puts him in his crib and holds his hand while he falls asleep. Talking with Max about his day sounds like a great idea. When he is older, it will give him an opportunity to tell you about any problems he might be having instead of keeping them to himself. Thanks for the advice on Gabes temper! Over and out, Jamie and Gabe (14 months) email: zeppelin2@msn.com Monday, April 17, 2000 at 13:41:17 (EDT)) Hello All. Boy It took me forever to read all the post. I should have looked through them this weekend!! AJ is 20 months today. I can't believe it. Yesterday I was singing to him, I make up songs for my kids, I am wierd, DH thinks I am crazy. Anyway, I got to a part that that I say "Your name is "Aric" that's your name..." and he said his name it sounded so cute "Aic". It sounded so funny coming from him. I don't think he has every said it in my presence. Well I got DH to go with me to the dinner...! We were dropping the kids at his sisters and he said "I really don't want to go to this" So I got mad and said "Okay" lets go home. We got home, out of the car and into the house. I told him that I do things for him that I don't like to do or go. And that he was being selfish. And that he always thinks about himself and not what I would like to do. So, he went....And had a good time!! He is just a party pooper. I have to push him to do what I want. Usually it works. He knows who the boss is!! LOL Katy - How is Liam? Patty - I hope your weekend was better. Alice - Hum I might try that "Clean your own underwear" theory when AJ starts to PT. He does tell me has pooped. "I pee" I just saw the news. Congratulation!!! I would like another one. I don't know if my body can handle one. Julieanne- I know how you feel about the late naps. If AJ does not nap, I try real hard to make sure he does not sleep. Usually I say "You want pop?" He bounces right up. Happy day on the bottle. My oldest son was 19 months. And cried and cried when I threw all his babas in the dumpster. AJ I think was 11 months. He really did not miss it. He was a good eater so he did not even miss it when I quit giving it to him. Meg- Is Hana feeling better? Jamie- I have the same kind of problem with my child. He is a hitter. I have tried all kinds of things. Paris told me to cry when he hit me. It works most of the time. But I am now trying not to be in the position where AJ is getting irritated. I warn his brother not to bother him when it looks like he is in that mood. I just don't want him to have the opportunity to hit. AJ likes feet too. He is always want to smell our feet and says "puchee!" Kahne - Cool spelling of your name. Hi to you too!! Charline - Mass was a little too long for AJ. He got upset when I went for communition and he wanted a "piece". He started to yell. "I piece, I piece!" DH had to take him outside. Moriah- I will be thinking of Alex on the 25th. Sarah - What state do you live in. Your weather sounds like ours in Kansas. Friday it was 84 and Saturday it was cloudy and 35!!! Perfect weather for me to get sick. Well I better go. I will try read more often. My eyes are still trying to recover from the reading. That is why I have pop bottle glasses!!LOL Moe and AJ Monday, April 17, 2000 at 15:11:56 (EDT)) Hi, Paris again. I knew I screwed up that name on that post. It was meant for Rebecca not Paula. Sorry! I think Quinn is finally starting to have a nap. Poor little thing has been carted around for 4 days so today we are just taking it easy. She's been great though considering her age and how many people and how much action has been around her the last few days. She's still a happy smiling little peanut. Well, I have to try and find that link for the chat so I can chat with you guys. Talk to you soon! Paris and Quinn email: pariscosby@hotmail.com Monday, April 17, 2000 at 15:24:12 (EDT)) Okay, I'm losing my mind. Paul and Rebecca are both from BC. Okay, I have it all sorted out now. So, I guess that post was for both of you! :0) Yes, I'm a loonie! lol Paris again email: pariscosby@hotmail.com Monday, April 17, 2000 at 15:32:31 (EDT)) Hello again--- so many posts thought since I had the chance I would check in--- Shelly----Christi-- OK what is evolutionism???? I know!!!!!!duh! I love that show. LisaB-- 'Work with Max'---- had to laugh! Amanda does the same thing and sometimes just wants not to be touched and do things herself. At bedtime- I usually have Amanda kiss or wave everyone 'bye' and carry her to her crib , cover her and run out, if she seems as though she is not quite sleepy yet, I will rock her and hum 'rock a by baby' and so does she- then put her in bed, bedtime is usually nutty around here w/the other two so no chance to get into a routine of any kind. Amanda won't sit still long enough for a story! Oh poor Max and the crash on the cement. :O( Have fun with the garden-- 'some day' we may make one! Moe-- glad you and DH went out after all- we need to go out w/out the kids now and then! So funny about AJ wanting a piece-- Amanda hasn't done that 'yet'!! OK-- thats it. Amanda had a couple new words---- Pizza--'pee-tah' and auntie.'.a--tee'-- there's another one but you know me-forgot! Well better go and check on the pizza- its rising in the oven--later!! ( we got out of going to the marathon!) Helen&Amanda@20mos(DS@14yrsDD@12yrs) email: MHIM27@worldnet.att.net Monday, April 17, 2000 at 16:46:25 (EDT)) Hayley here. We're finally recovered from our colds here - just lots of snot! DH and I had a great time on his birthday at dinner and dancing, once we got our second wind! Of course, now that the stock market tanked on Friday, and we have to write a big whopping tax check to the Internal Revenue Service (with an extension, as our accountant said that FedEx lost our returns he sent overnight), we are feeling impoverished. We decided to drown our sorrows this weekend by taking a trip to the wine country and spending our remaining cash on booze! Becca was a cutie in the tasting room, pointing at everyone's glasses and asking "juice?" Spent most of the time chasing her around to make sure she didn't get a hold of any glasses or bottles of wine! We're trying to wean Becca from her pacifier, which we were giving to her just at nap and bedtimes. It's been a pain. Before I put her in the crib, I show here the drawer where we used to keep the "binkys" and say "all gone." Then I try to put her in the crib - but she jumps up, starts pointing at the drawer, and cries "binky!!" I have been letting her cry for about 10 minutes, by which time she's usually over it - but it's really hard! However, I just read an article about frequency of ear infections with pacifiers, and decided better to do it sooner rather than later. Work's been a bitch today - constant phone calls with cranky clients asking for tax loans - I feel like all my clients are 2 year olds who need a nap LOL!! Rita - the concert was in the Pauley Ballroom in the student center. It was cool to see Winton Marsellis so close. Shelly & Moriah - I had no idea you two were sisters! Moriah - I'd love to see Alex. Alice - congrats on the pregnancy. hayley and becca, 19 mos. email: hayley.thompson@citicorp.com Monday, April 17, 2000 at 17:00:02 (EDT)) I forgot to mention that AJ repeated his ABC's to DH It was funny.DH would say A then he'd repeat it etc. I was suprised because his big brother (I hate to compare) but he was an early talker and would say his ABC's and knew sentences, so I was getting worried about him talking, but now he is doing good. My older son had a video I ordered. You send a picture of your child and they put his face in the cartoon video. It was cute. The would say his name and say "Jalen what comes after the letter C! " I truely believe it helped him with his ABC's . My son had to watch it everyday. I think maybe I should put it in for AJ so he can learn too. LisaB - I missed the question on the bedtime. I too lay with AJ. It takes forever for him to lay down. He had ELMO with him the other day and swung it at me and ELMO's eye hit me in the head!!! But I have a trick. It started with my dad. (My parents watch my kids) He plays music for him for him to take his nap. He will start playing the tape and the song is not over and he is asleep. My dad plays old 50's music. Thats how I get him to take his nap at home too. I don't do it when it is time for bed. I should, but I am tired so I just lay with him. Besides AJ is heavy!! 30 pounds. My arms get numb. Well I better go, my hands are cold and my arthritis is acting up. Moe again Monday, April 17, 2000 at 18:21:13 (EDT)) Hi Mommies, Kahne here! Nothing much new today, I got my pre final grades today, and I have a good chance of getting around a 3.5-4.0 this semester! I am so excited about that prospect. Cat is being a little hellion as usual. We took her to the Audubon Zoo this weekend. She absolutley LOVED the elephant. Funny thing, we got pics of her petting the elephant, but when we tried to get her to touch a turtle she FREAKED. Funny Girl! *Julianne she was terrified of the bunnies, too! LOL! * Meg it hit the 90's today, and I've never seen snow, either. Funny thing, I don't feel deprived, LOL. *Jamie, you are right, I got the two confused. I am a dumbass sometimes, Mommy Brain combined with Student Brain is not a good thing! I loved New Orleans while I lived there, which was most of my life, but it is so dangerous now, I hate going back. All of our friends that still live there envy us for getting out when we did. The only difference between New Orleans and New York is when you get mugged, the robber says "GIVE ME YOUR WALLET, If yall don't mind" *Patty, I should have the pics back before the weekend, looking forward to sharing them! *Moriah, got the pics, love the egg one! * Paris, glad to hear that you are having agood time. *Alice CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *Lisa B, when we put Cat to bed, the first thing we do is "kiss the fishies". She has a fish tank in her room. Then she kisses the baby (in the mirror), then she kisses daddy. After that she gets passed to mommy, and we kiss the kitties, the poster of kittens in her room. After that we hit the "bells", the wind chime over her bed. Then,she gets Barney, her elephant,and woobie. Last, she gets her water cup, and last nite nites. We tell her we love her, turn out the light and leave. Works like a charm! *Moe, i find that a cat o nine tails does the trick when steve gets selfish like that, might want to look into one, LOL!!!! Oh, My I feel so caught up again! I am going to go and bathe while Cat and Daddy watch wrasslin (as the rednecks say!) Crystal, where are you!!!!! Kahne and Cat 15 months email: kahneandsteve@megagate.com Monday, April 17, 2000 at 21:49:22 (EDT)) Hi Ladies! Alice & Nathan & New Baby(ha,ha), Great day at work today, even if it was Monday, I don't know how you ladies feel about how your "not supposed to tell your employer for 3 months", but I couldn't do that I start at 8:30 and by 8:45 the whole office new that I was pregnant. LOL OMG I forgot how exciting it is being pg, and I am on cloud 9. On to personals: Thank-you to everyone for your congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PAULA - I planned this pg well didn't I, due date December 31, and I will most likely have a scheduled c section, so I will just have to opt for some time in the first week in January, a year off, yeah!!!!! Where abouts in Canada are you? I'm in Ontario, don't know if I told you that already, someone else was asking me where I lived cause they use to live in Ontario, was that you, I'm losing my mind can't keep up to everyone anymore. ha, ha. MORIAH - I know I e-mailed you already, but I just loved the pics of Alex, he is adorable, where did you get them done? HELEN - That drinking on the street thing is great huh, makes you feel weird though, I remember my Husband and I went to Jamaica and they just walk around the street drinking, took a while to get used to. Too cute about Amanda putting the popcorn bowl on her head. SARAH - I may not know when AF is coming, lol, but I do know my dd, it's December 31, okay that's it no more talking about dreams, I think it's my fault, I started this, now I am freaking everyone out. I'll come have a sleep over with you if you want. ha, ha. Hannah is just the cutest, I could just give her a big squeeze! LISAB - I basically had the same routine as you, when we moved Nathan into his toddler bed he didn't like it too much and one night DH just said he has to learn on his own so we left the door open with night lite on and the hall lite on just to let him know that I was there I stayed in my room till he fell asleep, we had to do this for a couple of months, but he still gets a story or a song every night and sometimes he takes a while to fall asleep but he has learned to entertain himself so we don't have to stay with him anymore, good luck! Don't have to apologize for the abbreviations I just couldn't get it. Oh I am Due December 31, guess I should have put that in last nite since everyone is asking, I was just sooo excited to tell everyone I guess I forgot. I think you got mixed up Paris said her son said he was gay, but I'm with you on the happy meaning, it is sad. JAMIE - too funny about Gabe and the foot fetish, Nathan also loved his feet when he was about 1 he would lie on his back and bring his toes up to his mouth, it sounds yucky but it was soo cute. MOE - You have to learn to play the game with DH, my DH used to do the same thing, and I know he gets me sooo pissed cause he knows I'll say let's go home (which is what he really wants) so now I say we are going and you can just get rid of your bad mood. LOL Okay DH is waiting for me he wants to watch the three kings, I'll see if I can stay awake, remember that sleeping thing at the beginning of pg. LOL Goodnite Ladies, Alice & Nathan (almost 3) & 3 wks. pg email: alicita@idirect.ca Monday, April 17, 2000 at 22:46:21 (EDT)) Colton has been having a riot w/ us practicing golf outside. He will get a ball out of the bucket, say "Daddy's ball" and throw it over to him. Mommy has to get her own balls though! Moriah: Thanks for the cute pics. I love the surfer one. Where did you go? Such great props! Great weight gain and eating progress for Alex. That's awesome about your special anniversary. Patty: Thanks for the pics. The one of the boys profiles really shows how much they look alike. You have two darling boys. Alice: Congrats on being pg. Too funny about your telling everyone already! Paula: Sometime I force Colton to watch something I want to on TV because I just don't want to see one of his videos again! What a mean mommy I can be. Paris: Wow, I never thought about kids picking up on the gay issue watching TV. One more reason to emphasize play time over watching TV. Helen: What a fun weekend you had. No wonder you're ready for some veg time. Sarah: Sounds like you had a fun weekend w/ Hannah. LisaB: Great that Max sat so good for your haircut. We still have been letting Colton fall asleep w/ us while watching TV. DH has been doing this since I'm usually studying. I have decided it's time to get tough so tonight I put him to bed at 8:30 and he screamed and screamed for mommy about 10 minutes. Then I went in and comforted him and he fell asleep in just a couple of minutes. I am trying to get him to fall asleep in his bed on his own. Jamie: I had to LOL picturing you hopping around. How cute. Moe: Glad your Dh saw the light and went to dinner w/ you. Kahne: Colton's jealous of Cat for getting to pet an elephant! Great job on your grades. Gotta go--I'm sooooo tired. Julianne & Colton 21 mo email: jjones@howardmiller.com Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 00:38:26 (EDT)) Hi mommies. I just put Jarin down for the night. I was just rocking him after his nursing and he was giggling at me again. I just kept kissing his little hands and face and telling him how much I love him. Then I said, "You're mommy's little angel, aren't you?" And he said, "mm-huh" (Jarin-speak for Yes). He is such a sweetheart. I just kept staring at him with tears in my eyes. God, I love him sooooooo much!!! **Meg: That is so awful about that woman hitting her child! And pricking the hands with a needle? OMG! I also hate it when people are smacking their kids just for being kids. It's ridiculous. Poor things. I just want to take them all home with me. **Paris: Sounds like you are having lots of fun. Hope Quinn is good on the way home. **Darleen: That's great that Nolan is enjoying his kitchen set so much. When I take Jarin out to my classroom, he likes to play with all the kitchen stuff too. **Charline: Good luck on the plane trip. When we went last year, I just gave Jarin some Dimetapp before we took off (about 1/2 hour before) so he wouldn't have problems with his ears popping. It also wiped him out, so he slept part of the way. He sat on my lap too. Too cute that Hayden was "all done" with Mass. I know I would've been cracking up too. One night in church, Jarin decided he needed to "shoosh" (nurse) and kept saying it over and over. Jaime and Jesse were totally trying not to laugh and not succeeding. =) **Julianne: Yay for Colton being off bottles! So cute that he calls the other boys "guys". =) I was LOL at him calling you "honey". Sandboxes are great. It sure does keep Jarin busy! **Alice: CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hey, are you excited??? LOL at your whole office knowing within 15 minutes. **Paula: DH and I both spend out days with Barney songs in our heads too. My dH said exactly the same as yours not too long ago and I just had to laugh at him. Jarin also says Barney clear as a bell. How can you resist when they ask so sweetly? **Moriah: Thanks for the pictures of Alex. Hard to believe he is already 18 months. I love the flower pot picture. Too cute. Sounds like he is really growing. Yay! =) I hope your (Alex's) surgeries go well and that after these he can have a big break from hospitals for a long time. **Michelle: Happy Birthday to Evan one day late! **Helen: sounds like you had a busy, but fun, weekend!! Hope the dryer is fixed by now. $75 a day for an aide substitute???? Wow, that is WONDERFUL pay!! Here a TEACHER sub only gets $55 a day. My aide only makes like $7 an hour. I think they are paid way too low! LOL at Amanda yelling "no way!" **Sarah: I'm sure Hannah was stealing hearts everywhere with her flirting! **LisaB: I bet Max was adorable in his little cape for your haircut. Jarin also gets irritated when other people are in his face. From a distance he does fine, but if someone is all over him, he gets mad. Our nighttime routine: Jarin and I tuck Jesse in, then we go in his room, sometimes read (lately he's vetoed this), say nite-nite to the light and the door, say a prayer, nurse (yes, still!), then rock and giggle for about five minutes, then I tuck him in and tell him "nite-nite I love you!" He usually giggles a little and that's all I hear from him. Of course, remember it took three hellish nights of constant screaming and another month of crying before we got to this point. But now I LOVE bedtime. It is so sweet and snuggly and he just goes down so happily. =) **Jamie: I also hate shoes! I love to be barefoor and Jarin is starting to be like me. As soon as we come into the house he says "shoes" and wants everyone to take off their shoes. LOL **Moe: congrats on getting DH to go to the party. Too cute with AJ saying his own name. Yay for him saying his ABCs with DH too! **Kahne: Yay for you and your GPA!!! **Take care everyone. It took me forever to catch up and I WAS on this weekend!!! Patty and Jarin - 19 1/2 months email: tematheny@ctlnet.com Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 01:02:44 (EDT)) Hi, Paris here. Well, being away from Alex and Victoria has done wonders for Quinn. The little peanut is talking up a storm. She talks now! Wow and it happened in a week. DH is going to notice such a big difference when we get back. :0) Well, I've got a big list of personals here, so I'm going to get right to it. Charline: On the plane, ask for a seat with room in front of you. They automatically assigned me one and that worked out well for Quinn playing. Also, take something (I took pop) that you know he will drink on the descent cuz it can be pretty hard on their ears. Have fun! Julianne: Yay for Colton being done bottles! Helen: Where in Canada are you visiting? I'm flying out on Thursday. :0) I'm actually looking forward to getting home. As great as it is to see all my old friends here - and I hit a great weekend to see so many - it will be nice to get home. Sarah: Way too cute with Hannah flirting. :0) You need to email me a picture of her! Christi: I love Zoboomafoo. My kids learn so much from that and from Kratt's Creatures. LisaB: My kids put themselves to sleep. Not every night or anything but for the most part. Jamie: Very cute about the foot fetish! :0) Moe: Happy 20 months to AJ! Hayley: Sounds like the wine tasting was a lot of fun!!! I love going to wine tastings! Kahne: You asked me how I got my name. Well, my father was a race car driver and won at Silverstone in England when my mother was pregnant. They thought I was going to be a boy so they were going to call me Jonas London. I was a girl, so they called me Paris Johanna. They just sort of switched it around. :0) Good job on your grades! It's always nice when your hard work pays off!!! Julianne: I totally agree with you that playing over TV is so much better. They just know I get a kick out of Will and Grace and it is the only show I watch so it's a big event. :0) They sneak out to see what the big deal is and what is so great about this show mommy is watching. As far as them picking things up from TV, all kids totally do! But, there is nothing wrong with being gay. I would hope that my understanding and views about gay/lesbian people and relationships will also help them to see that it is okay to be exactly who they are whether that is gay or straight or whatever. I also think shows like Will and Grace and others that have gay/lesbian people or issues on them aren't necessarily bad for my children to watch. I want them to grow up with tolerance and understanding so I always introduce issues like this at a young age so it's not a foreign concept when they are older. They will be raised with the idea that it's normal no matter how you are. Sorry to preach. It's just prejudice is a huge issue to me and I have no tolerance for anyone that would put down or think less of another person because of race, religion, or sexual orientation. Please don't think I'm aiming this at you, I have no idea what your views are. I just never shut up on this issue. :0) You should see me go in my little redneck town that I live in!!! They don't even go there with me at this point. :0) Patty: Jarin sounds like a real sweetie! Now if I could only get my little sweetie to go to bed. :0) Anyway, I'm off to do my diary entries for this week. Now that I've entirely shared my views on prejudice with everyone. :0) Talk to you all soon! Paris and Quinn email: pariscosby@hotmail.com Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 01:57:00 (EDT)) hi Paula here just a quick note as its 11:30. paula and kids Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 03:50:08 (EDT)) Gee that was really quick, I don't know what happened there, can you tell that I'm tired?? Moriah- It's great to hear that Alex is doing so wonderfully, and I will keep him in my prayers. Paris- I am in Victoria, on Vancouver Island. Approx 1 hr boat ride from Vancouver. Alice?? I hope I have the right person- Way to schedule the pg, and Dec 31, that's a great birthday, it's mine!!!! No wonder some of us have a hard time keeping the names straight, as this is a very busy board. It's wonderful. That's all from me for now. We made an offer on a house today, very stressfull, and I'm hoping I'll be able to sleep. Good Night, Paula, again Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 03:58:26 (EDT)) Well, I have been doing dome research on IUD's the last few days. Most failures occur during the first 3 months of use. The IUD can be expelled without your knowing it. And if the IUD is in the wrong position, it doesn't protect you. The particular IUD that I am using is the copper one, that does not produce hormones. There is one that does produce hormones, but it has to be replaced every year vs 10 years with the copper one. In addition to this information - I got sick to my stomach today for no apparent reason. I was able to control my stomach, and it went away - Then I was doing something else, and without warning - I threw up. So I am going to call the Dr tommorrow, and get an appointment. He does free PG tests, so cost is not the reason that I didn't want to go. I personally think that I just have "leftover" hormonones in my system that is stopping AF. (That is why I don't trust the HPT - I am afraid of somehow getting a false positive. I don't even know if that is possible, but somehow I worry about it. I have also gotten PG on the pill and using condoms - so being PG now would not really surprise me. If I am - I will definatly be happy, and so will DH. (We only wanted to wait so I could get into shape for an easier PG, and to be sure we had recovered from Thads death.) So for everyone that weighted in with their opinions - THANKS. It seems pretty unanimous that I go get tested - one way or another. MEG - Sorry, my kids already had the Chicken Pox last month. The weirdest rash was on the last one to get it. Josh is five, and he only got spots on his back. The others all had fairly mild cases, and no scaring. Just be glad that you have got it over with. Have you ever seen the "bug boxes" that they sell at Cracker Barrel? The fist time Bryton opened one of those it really scared him becasue it was moving. He threw it away as fast as he could. After that we couldn't get him near bugs - if he knew what they were. He played with a huge beetle without even thinking about it. But everytime we went by Cracker Barrel (or saw a sign) he would say that he didn't like that place, because they have bugs. He has since lost his fear, but it was about a year. JAMIE - the website address is hyyp://alaboroflove.homestead.com I think that everyone else has done a great job covering your question of violence, so I really have nothing original to say on the subject. KAHNE - Bryton used to say DAMN IT whenever he was mad. But we just didn't react to it, and he soon stopped saying it. SHELLY - My kids used to love watching all the PBS shows, but now we have a satalite system, and we don't get ANY local stations. So now my kids are NICK JR fans. PARIS - My kids hated their first flight (they were 3 and 2), but when it was over they wanted to do it again - GO FIGURE! DARLEEN - Hey, Nathan could be a world famous chef one day. I figure if they find something they like, let them do it. Josh has been telling me forever that he is going to be an artist, so I encourage him in art projects all the time. CHARLEEN - My church is 3 hours every Sunday, and I am exhasuted at the end. (we have a general service that lasts an hour and 15 min, then classes (singing, general sharing time, and classes broke out by age) for another hour and 45 min. (I teach the class for 7-8 year olds) One sunday we were singing the final song before the final prayer, and Bryton yelled in the moment of silence between "Yipee, it's over!" A s far as the flight goes, if not all the seats are taken, then you can usaually use one for your Hayden. A trick that I learned about flying - When you and DH are flying together, book the aisle and the window seat. Most people hesitate to take a middle seat between two booked seats if they can help it. And if someone does book the middle seat, they are usually willing to trade for the window or aisle so you don't have to sit apart afterall. Happy traveling! JULIANNE - My DH made a joke about my dauhgter calling me by my given name after a visit w/ gma. he says "I can understand that she was around people calling her mother by her given name, so she figured that it was a correct form of address - I just wish that she would quit calling me 'Dipsh#t'". ALICE - CONGRATS! I am so happy for you. So, when are you due? Ok - just read the post that answered that question. If you are going C section, why not do it before the 31st? As it is tax time, of course I am thinking about being able to take that extra tax deduction! If that baby is born Dec 31st at 11:59 pm - you still get the deduction for the whole year. HELEN - Great weekend - got stuff done AND got to party? WOW - I'm impressed. LISA B - I have always had Marcus put himself to sleep, and it works great. I have kept him on a reg schedule, and if he doesn't get his nap on time he gets cranky. But I just tuck him into bed, give him a kiss, and say "nite, nite", close the door, and he is usually alseep in a few min. After figting bedtime with my older three (because I would stay with them until they were asleep) I learned my lesson. It would be nice to rock them all to sleep, but I just don't have enough arms for them all. Every once in a rare while, I will rock Marcus to sleep - just becasue he is so good about going to bed. Well, enough for now - more later. Theressa email: labor_story@yahoo.com Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 04:00:11 (EDT)) Ok, I wasn't going to put in my 2 cents on the 2 major issues that came up over the weekend, but I changed my mind. So here it is Creationism vs evolution. Who says the two can't co-exist? I'm not saying that Man came from apes - I am just saying that God created the world, who says that he didn't use some form of evolution to do it? I got that view from a Biology teacher who was an athiest turned Christian. Who are we to say HOW the world was created. I think that Man was put on the earth as is, but the other animals have evolved over time. Does that make any sense to anyone? I mean - evolution is a fact, I just don't believe that it is on the grand scale that is taught in school. Second, the gay thing. I teach my children that gay is wrong, but we should treat everyone with kindness. Just because a person makes a wrong choice (and I think it is a choice) is no reason to hate that person. If a person knows wrong, and chooses to do it anyway - then that action is punishable. But people who don't know any better (and gay is accepted in todays society, so people really don't know better) then unitl they learn the truth, they can not be held accountable. Would I stop my child from associating with a gay person - NO. Would I use the opportunity to teach my child about good and bad choices - YES. I hope that my children don't make the wrong choice, but if they did - I would still love them. Ok, off the soapbox. Theressa email: labor_story@yahoo.com Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 04:27:25 (EDT)) Paris here. OKAY! I'm sorry but I just have to do this and you guys can hate me or love me. That's usually the way it goes with me anyway. ha ha. People either hate me or they love me. So, here goes. Evolutionsim vs. Creationism: I do not believe in God. However, I do teach my children each one. What I believe is what I believe and I will leave what my children want to believe up to them. Gay/Lesbian: OKAY this is the biggie!!!!!! It is NOT a choice! I don't know how much I can stress this. Why would someone choose to be gay and be ridiculed and hated for their enite lives by people with small minds and no concept of civilization? If someone is going to stand up and say I AM GAY! I am the first one to applaud and say, "Wow, good for you!" To go against an intolerant society is such a feat of courage! But, it's the strong people who will say these things and will lead society to a higher level of understanding about human beings. I just know I'm gonna get kicked off this board. Y'know I believe in this so strongly that it doesn't matter to me. I can not believe someone would stand there and (oh, let's just look at the news) kill a man because he is gay. Does anyone deserve that? I don't think so! I have no patience for any kind of prejudice. I'm really waivering on whether to post this or not. I know a lot of you are not going to agree with me. In fact I could probably name the ones that will. :0) I think it's great, Theressa, that you would love your son anyway. It's just you put your two cents in and now I am as well. :0) Okay, I'm posting. Hate me or love me girls. Alice, you'll still love me right? :0) You better! LOL I really just have such a strong view on this. So, that's my two cents ladies. Night! :0) Paris email: pariscosby@hotmail.com Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 05:15:39 (EDT)) Good Morning, Hope everyone is having a wonderful day, it is as clear as a bell where I am, I love waking up to sun. I also can't believe I have a chance to post before the kids wake-up. Here in Canada we no longer have a deduction for dependents. Only if you are a single parent. They took it out in 92 I believe. Theressa- I'm glad to hear that you are going to have the test (hope it goes your way). On the evolution/creationalism, gay/lesbian issue, I'm gonna take the silent road as I believe it is a very touchy subject. I will however say that I am very open minded. Big hellos to all of your babies, Bye for now, paula & kids Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 11:19:59 (EDT)) Hi from LisaB. Max had a new word this morning … di-pa (for diaper). I got him one of those huge bouncy balls last night and he's having a ball playing with it. The little stinker keeps bouncing it under the dining room table and then "protesting" because Mean Mommy Monster won't dig it out for him. Hey, if he wants to put it under there HE can crawl under the table and get it back out - LOL!!! JAMIE: Gabriel sounds adorable, trying to scoop your foot up with his shovel!!! Max also loves to go barefoot. As soon as he gets home he wants to take off his socks and shoes so his "piggies" can come out and play (he loves to do "this little piggy"). Thanks for making me feel like I'm not spoiling Max by staying with him until he's asleep. The day seems so rushed that I hate to lose that "connecting" time snuggling in bed!! MOE: Happy 20 month birthday to AJ. How sweet that he said his own name!! Good for you, pushing DH to go out and have fun with you!!! HELEN: Yeah on Amanda's expanding vocabulary! HAYLEY: So you deal with kids at work and home both, huh?! Some days I feel like an overpaid babysitter at my job with all the pettiness, complaining, etc. KAHNE: YEAH on your good grades. Cat sounds adorable - petting the elephant and being afraid of the turtle!!! ALICE: I told work around 8 weeks this time … as my clothes were getting tight and I was in maternity clothes by 10 weeks or so. JULIANNE: Colton is going to be a golf player too, huh?! PARIS: DH won't recognize Quinn when you get home, will he?! (With all our new words and stuff). Great attitudes on gays. I grew up in a very segrated rural area … all whites, Protestants, etc. I couldn't believe people's attitudes at college - hating people because of their color, religion, nationality, sexual orientation, etc. I mean, come on - we are all people. What really gets me are the religious fanatics, like my younger sister. She thinks she is so holy and righteous but discriminates against everyone who isn't exactly like her. Obviously she's never read the parts of the bible dealing with the golden rule!!! PAULA: Good luck with the offer on the house!!! THERESSA: How embarrasing, Bryton yelling "it's over" in church!!!! I agree that creationism and evolution CAN co-exist. There are several who believes that "days" in the bible were measured differently than we measure them today - so the week that creation last might have actually been several years, going along with the evolution theme. I have to disagree on the gay issue through. I had a friend in college (a male) who was gay. He didn't choose to be that way. Who would? It was a small town and his family basically disowned him, all his friends from high school quitting associating with him as it was "too weird" and they were afraid he would "put the moves on them", he lost his job as a DJ on the radio as so many listeners protested once they heard he was gay, etc. It basically ruined his life to "come out of the closet". Yet, he had these feelings and he couldn't change them. Many researchers believe the tendancy to be gay is chemical - it's something in your brain that you can't "overcome". I think the attitude that being gay is a choice and that the person made a "wrong choice" is very prejudice, the same as being prejudice against people who have mental illnesses, etc. I had an uncle who was gay and died of AIDS - most of the family didn't find this out until 10 years after his death as he felt the need to "hide" it, like some dirty little secret. I don't intend to let this difference of opinion affect our "relationship" in any way, but I feel a moral need to express my thoughts. PARIS: You won't be kicked off this board for expressing an opinion. And for what it's worth, I agree with you 100% on the gay issue. I hope everyone feels as free as the 3 of us (you, Theresa, and myself) to express their opinions ... and I hope noone takes these posts personally! LisaB & Max (19 mo.) & 18 wks pg email: lisa_lab@hotmail.com Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 11:33:34 (EDT)) Good morning ladies...SARAH here. HANNAH was soooo good last night. She's really in to the moon now. We have to go outside everynight and tell the moon goodnight! :) She's in awe of it! How did you all get rid of the bottle (those of you who used it?) CHRISTI - Good chatting with you yesterday. DARLEEN - Good chatting with you too. LISA - I usually read some books, then she goes around and kisses her favorite animals + DH goodnight, and I take her up to her room, hold her and hug her, tell her I love her for a couple of minutes and lay her down with a bottle. She goes right down. I want to wean her from the bottle, though. JAMIE - HANNAH has a foot fetish, too. :) MOE - I live in Colorado. We're right by each other. Sort of. :) HAYLEY - Your trip sounds like fun. KAHNE - 3.5-4.0???? That's awesome. WAY TO GO!!!! ALICE - Let's have a big slumber party!!!! :) You're so funny how you told everyone. I would be the same way. I'll give HANNAH a big squeeze for ya, ok?? JULIANNE - Poor mommy gets no help with her balls. LOL - That came out funny! :) PATTY - Your post was soooo sweet about you and JARIN!! PARIS - I'll email some pictures. They're a little outdated, but at least you'll have a face with the name. It seems like I already sent you some...maybe not. PAULA - Good luck with the house!!! OK ladies...hormones are starting to rage. LOL Talk to you all later! Sarah and Hannah (19 months) email: smoore@geatoir.cfer.com Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 11:38:11 (EDT)) Me again. I just wanted to say I didn't mean anything by the hormone comment. I think it's GREAT how we can all express our opinions on this board!!! See ya! Sarah again Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 11:41:45 (EDT)) Hi ladies from Sue and Cameron. Wow! You all were busy posting over the weekend. I skimmed the posts, but feel like I just watched a really complicated movie in fast-forward mode. LOL. Had a really good weekend with Cameron. He's changing and learning and growing every day. Most of the changes and developments are very cute and endearing, but a lovely little toddler temper is also making itself known! Cam had his first foot-stomping tantrum on Saturday over not wanting to go in the house for lunch. I didn't know whether to laugh, ignore him, or just drag him in the house. At 15 months, would timeouts mean anything to him? Yesterday was a holiday in Massachusetts. I didn't have to work, but brought Cam to daycare anyways so I could get a couple big projects done. First, I cleaned out my car (I'm embarassed to even describe how gross and dirty it was). After, I raked my front yard then attacked my perennial garden. I had only 2 little plants come back this year, so I grabbed a pitchfork and turned over the whole thing (it's pretty big!), raked out the rocks and roots and transplanted a few things from other parts of the yard. My muscles were screaming last night! I picked up Cam in the middle of the afternoon - just in time for rain. So, we ended up playing in the house until DH got home. Hey, speaking of DH...remember how aggravated I was with him all last week? I think I discovered the reason. AF decided on a surprise visit over the weekend. Looks like she's going back to the unpredictable schedule she was on before Cam. Yuck. A couple of personals: MORIAH - thanks for the pics of Alex. He looks so grown up! ALICE - CONGRATS on your preganancy. Glad you got a kick out of the "eh" in my post. We have a youth worker exchange program with both the UK and Canada, so we have quite a number of Canadians on our staff. We always joke with them about the use of "eh" in their lingo. They retaliate by joking about how we New Englanders drop "R" out of most words. Patriot's Day is a Mass. holiday celebrating several importatnt battles fought in the area during the Revolutionary War. We also have a "Rememberance Day" in November, but call it "Veterans' Day." LISAB - we also have a nice bedtime routine worked out. After his bath, we get Cam in his pjs, then he sits on my lap (or DH) and we read a few books while he drinks a bottle of milk (that's the only bottle he gets, and we're hoping to switch that one to a cup also). When the milk is gone, we go upstairs and get his bear out of the crib and rock for a minute or two, then put him to bed wide awake. Quick additions to the two hot topics of the day... Evolutionism/Creationism: I stay far away from all discussions on politics, religion, and family! Gay/Lesbian: I'm not sure whether homosexuality is right or wrong, destiny or choice, but look at it this way: Since there is far too little love in the world, it should be celebrated regardless whether the participants are of the same or opposite gender. Okay, I only meant for this to be a quick post, but see my case of diarrhea of the keyboard has returned! LOL! Check in again soon. Bye. Sue and Cameron email: sbarry@key.org Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 11:48:00 (EDT)) Hello from Rita Interesting topics these past few days... I hopefully had my last root canal installment yesterday.I am so tired of dental visits, etc. I have had six since January, not counting other medical appointments. Ugh - I am just tryong to be good and take care of myself so that I am around for a long time to enjoy my girls. Now DH is another story... Alice - Congratulations!!! Maddy was born on 12/31 (due 1/3) and Amy on 1/4 (due 1/15). It's hard to be close to Christmas, but we manage. Moriah - Yah, where did the sunshine go? I love the pictures! We'll be thinking of you guys on the surgery dates. +++++++++ Patty - Where are my pictures? (sniff sniff) Beth - How is your boo-boo? I love to play softball - it has been sooo long, though. I am sure that I would get injured. Darleen - I have a kitchen set for the girls and I still would have gotten one if I had had boys. Children love to imitate what we do and making/serving food is a big part. It has been one of the best toys that we have purchased. And Nolan may choose to become a great chef. Sue - Boy are Amy and Cam right on the same development path! I still use distraction and remove Amy from the trouble area if nothing else works. We didn't start time-outs until Maddy was almost two, when she could understand the concept and talk with us about what had happened. Well, I have to go and prep for a meeting this AM. Take care everyone! Rita & Amy email: ritad@home.com Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 12:24:37 (EDT)) Hi everyone, well I swear I can start problems unintenionally every time! I am going to skip all of the personals stuff today and just leave with this. I e-mailed Paris a response to her latest post, and will be happy to forward it to any others who may be interested in my opinion. But, I will not post it here as I seem to be a minority and don't really feel like being attacked for my views, nor do I want to seem to be attacking anyone else. If I remember right there is a debate board somewhere on iparenting, but I can not find the link. I hope you all have a wonderful day with your toddlers, and I hope things will return to non religious matters soon! When they do, I will be back. Christi & Caleb email: plumbs@coiinc.com Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 12:48:06 (EDT)) Hello from Helen&Amanda!! Well its pretty chilly here today! I just talked to my parents in Can. and they said bring your winter coats---UUHH!!! This time of year is terrible to go there b/c we end up bringing tons of clothes not knowing if its going to be cold or they might get a warm spell! To add my 2 cents worth about the evolutionism and gay issues---- people become really defensive when they feel their beliefs are threatened. These days nothing seems to be 'politically correct', and its just silly. Being gay is something some are born with, I think its a proven fact- correct me if I'm wrong though-- some do actually choose that lifestyle--- OK- the thought of it gives me the willies but even though I don't approve of the lifestyle- its not something to condemn one for. ( like 'Dr Laura' says-- a penis and a vagina-- they fit together, period- I have to agree- she does have a point)--LOL!! As for evolutionism--- Who cares- really- its your own choice to beleive in what you want as long as its not being shoved down your throat. ??????!!!!!!! Paris-- we are going to Moncton,NB, I was born there and lived there for 20yrs until I married DH- an American and we moved here the week after the wedding. Kahne- great job on the grades!!! Theressa- we also have a sattelite dish- we also have cable and only pay for the reception so its 5-6$$ a month-- I couldn't stand not getting local channels. Let us know how the test goes-- I've always had success w/home preg tests-- the last one I did was EPT- you just pee on the stick- cover it and watch for it to turn. LisaB-Amanda has a huge ball from wal-mart and squeels and chases it when DD throws it up and kicks it-- Max sounds so cute!! Christi-- Please don't be offended-- sometimes some of us are guilty of being a little hormonal- myself included, but its unfair for us to attack eachother- we are all entitled to our own opinion--- as I did above- just voiced mine . Gotta go...:O) Helen&Amanda@20mos(DS@14yrsDD@12yrs) email: MHIM27@worldnet.att.net Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 13:20:57 (EDT)) Hayley here - I seem to have stumpled across a religious views/sexual orientation board!!! LOL!! Honestly, though, I'm going to keep personal beliefs out of it. I'm mostly looking for parenting tips to deal with my little monster. Any ideas on how to comfort you child when you leave for work? As soon as I start putting on my work clothes, eg. stockings, Becca starts crying "bye bye" and "be back??" Then she sobs at the front door as I leave. Any tricks? Kahne - where do you live now? I love New Orleans - DH and I are going next Thursday for Jazzfest (if the hotel confirms our reservation - they're denying I ever made one!!!) We're leaving Becca w/grandparents in California - I'd love to take her to the Audebon(sp?)Zoo. However, the San Francisco Zoo has borrowed one of the white alligators from your zoo, so that'll have to suffice. I'm originally from New York, so the crime/danger in NO isn't that much of a shock to me, relatively! Moriah - can you e-mail Alex photos? Hayley hayley and becca, 19 mos. email: hayley.thompson@citicorp.com Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 14:02:16 (EDT)) Wow! I'll just hop right in and add my two cents, really quickly, because i beleive that I have a unique perspective. My mother is gay, so Gabe has "Dos Grandmas", as we call them. My younger brother (14) was artificially insemenated, and his mother is my mothers partner (for 18 years), not actually my mother. My mother was married to my Dad for 13 years, and leaving that marriage because of her homosexuality was the hardest thing she has ever done. Unfortunately she did not have a choice in the matter, as we are born who we are. Saying that someone chooses to be gay is like saying that those of you who are heterosexuals (myself included) could choose to be attracted to the same sex. At what point in your life did you say, "I think I will be attracted to men?" None, right, its just the way you inately felt. Why does it matter to anyone who anyone else is sleeping with? I personally agree with Sue, that there is far too little love in the world to discriminate between who can and cannot love each other. As for religion, I personaly am not a Christian and do not beleive in organized religion. I do beleive that everyone has the right to beleive whatever they want to beleive, but should respect others rights to do the same. I am envious of the depth of some people faith, as I have seen my Grandmother, the most Christ-like person I know, comforted throughout her life by her belief. I am sorry that these discussions make so many people uncomfortable, but I myself have a need to express my opinions. As my husbands Grandfather says, "Everybodies entitled to their own stupid opinions!"On to lighter subjects: Moe - I have been trying that approach, also. I can tell when he is in the scratching mode, and I just dont give him the opportunity. LisaB - My DH is a little neurotic about other kids being around Gabe...it drives him crazy when they are all over him and playing rough. I have learned through experience to be very selective in my hearing where my MIL is concerned. Hayley - just remember, you dont lose money if you dont sell! Kahne - Congratulations on your grades! I know what you mean about Mom Brain and Student Brain, I dont think mine has worked quite right since the prenancy! I also know what you mean about New Orleans. My mottos are, "dont go down any allys," and "if your alone, your in trouble!" Are you a full-time student? I have been taking classes part-time on the inetrnet since I got pregnant, because I was too tired to get out of bed! I guess I wont have that luxury with a second baby. Alice - Now that I think about it, Gabe may have inherited his foot fetish from me, as I used to do the same thing as Nathan did when I was a baby. People are so weird about feet. I used to have a friend who would about throw up if she even saw a bare foot. Weird. Paris - I sense a kindred spirit! Mt Dh is oftentimes quite embarassed at my inability to keep my mouth shut when it comes to my opinions. Your views are admirable, and a sign that evolution is still occuring! (haha) Theresa - good luck on your pg test, and thank you for the address. Sue - I think that time-out definately works at 15 months, and even younger. Toddlers work on the pleasure/pain principal (I dont mean physically, I just mean punishment/reward) and while they may not understand the concept of time out as a theory yet, they do understand cause and effect. The understanding of the theory will come later, and easier if you have started this technique early. I write almost as much as I talk! Carpal-tunnel (sp)here I come. I hope everyone recovers from these recent venting of opinions are sensitive issues. I personally find it interesting to share these views, especially in a forum where you cant be interupted! (haha) Talk to ya'll later, Jamie and Gabe (14 months) email: zeppelin2@msn.com Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 15:12:56 (EDT)) Hello from Tara!! Well Adriana has been sick for 2 days now. She has a cold. I hope she gets better before Friday. We leave for the weekened. DH's 2 cousins are here visiting from back home. So I've been rather busy. They leave on Thursday and then I have to get us ready to leave on Friaday. Plus I still need to make Adriana's Easter basket. Oh what a busy week. I'll post later guys!!1 Tara and Adriana Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 15:20:57 (EDT)) Hello Ladies Whoo Mama! Very serious stuff here! I was very inlightened by everyones opinion! I consider myself very open. I don't have a problem with what people do with their lives. HECK my prom date was gay! ( Found out years later!! HELLO!!) What I can't tolerate is prejudice. I feel very sad with I see the white supremist (SP) with their you know what. It hurts me more when I see the children. You are not born predjudice...you are taught. Yes, I have experienced predjudice. If you have not guessed by now...I am a Mexican-American. My mother is from the "Old Country" what I call it. As a child I was called "Wetback" etc. I think someone called me a "taco!" Now people don't call you names infront of your face, but I have been around people who act. Being followed in stores etc. One time when I was in high school, I went to buy some black shoes. Well the lady asked if she could help me. There was not a sole in the store. I told her I was looking and she said "Oh I will just stand here just incase you have a question" I looked at her and said "What lady, you think I am going to steal one shoe!" I walked out...went to another shoe store down the street, very pleasent people, and bought shoes. I had parked my car infront of the first store and she saw me and I held my bag of shoes to the window and smiled!! I never went to that store again. You know I can go one forever!!! There is my dos pesos!!(2 cents) lol :) Kahne - Congrats on your grades. I always wonder if I went back to college if my grades would be better. I barely slid by...I still have dreams they are going to call me and say "We found an error, you did not graduate" Alice - Tell the world!!! Julianne - I had to get rid of AJ golf clubs...He kept hitting his brother over the head!! Patty - I start crying when I look at my kids sweet faces esp when they are sleeping Paris - hurrah on new words Lisa B - AJ likes those big balls too! DH still does not want to admit he had a goodtime...I heard him laugh!! It is a beautiful day today. It is going to be around 85!! At lunch I took my kids outside. AJ was screaming and running around. I started to sweat!! Then he cried when we had to go back in. I think I will cook hamburgers on the grill tonight so my kids can play on the swingset as I cook. BYE BYE ALL!!! Moe and AJ 20mo and 1 day! Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 16:42:45 (EDT)) Hi Everyone, Darleen here. I'm afraid to post after what I've read on religion, politics, and sexual genders. I believe to each there own! We are all entitled to an opinion, but lets not attack each other over silly issues. We don't know each other on a personal basis so who's to say some of the people on the TT board aren't lesbians???? I'm not!! But one never knows, and if someone is good for you, that is your choice, I'm straight, and I won't hate anybody for a personal choice that they have made!! This is a touchy subject for a lot of people because we all have different believes, different religions, and we are all of different races. I'm Canadian, and there are alot of Americans on here, and I know at one time (before my time), that the Canadians and the Americans didn't get along, but that isn't the case today, I would love to live in America, but not with Clinton as your President! He discusses me!! That is my opinion!! My Dh has always wanted to go to the States and work, but unfortunately there hasn't been a job opportunity for him yet. Maybe someday we will, and I will love shopping there, not having to pay GST or PST!! Oh well enough about that topic. Personals: Christi- Come back, we are all entitled to opinions!! Great chatting to you yesterday, hope to chat with you at 3pm est time Wednesday! Be there or be square!! LOL Sarah- I took Nolan's bottle away one night and never brought it back out again, he was painting my funiture with his bottle so I took it away for ever. He has never asked for one since. It has been since Feb 7th!! YAH!!!! Great chatting to you yesterday. Hopefully we can chat again tomorrow!! Alice-Congratulations!! I'm next, not sure when, I want a Spring baby for next year! Hopefully we can plan it, if not oh well! Practice makes perfect!! Paris-Your having too much fun!! Quite!! LOL!! I thought you came for a rest?? You will have to go home for a rest!! Is Quinn having a good time? Look what you started on the TT board? Oh well, it opened a whole new discussion! Touchy subject! My MIL said she would die if any of her grandchildren said they were gay or lesbians. Dh thinks his neice is a lesbian. She is 21, never had a boy friend to speak of, and has always lived with girls! Who knows. Her choice, not mine!! She is very different!! Whoever is going to New Brunswick, so I forgot to write who it was, bring lots of different clothing. The weather is weird here this time of year. Saturday was 75, Sunday was 8, Monday was 8, and today is 6 degrees or something like that. April is a weird month. Happy Easter Everyone! Have a great day, week, and nice long week-end!! Darleen & Nolan email: jndsmith@sprint.ca Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 16:51:22 (EDT)) Hi Everyone, Darleen here. I'm afraid to post after what I've read on religion, politics, and sexual genders. I believe to each there own! We are all entitled to an opinion, but lets not attack each other over silly issues. We don't know each other on a personal basis so who's to say some of the people on the TT board aren't lesbians???? I'm not!! But one never knows, and if someone is good for you, that is your choice, I'm straight, and I won't hate anybody for a personal choice that they have made!! This is a touchy subject for a lot of people because we all have different beliefs, different religions, and we are all of different races. I'm Canadian, and there are alot of Americans on here, and I know at one time (before my time), that the Canadians and the Americans didn't get along, but that isn't the case today, I would love to live in America, but not with Clinton as your President! He discusses me!! That is my opinion!! My Dh has always wanted to go to the States and work, but unfortunately there hasn't been a job opportunity for him yet. Maybe someday we will, and I will love shopping there, not having to pay GST or PST!! Oh well enough about that topic. Personals: Christi- Come back, we are all entitled to opinions!! Great chatting to you yesterday, hope to chat with you at 3pm est time Wednesday! Be there or be square!! LOL Sarah- I took Nolan's bottle away one night and never brought it back out again, he was painting my furniture with his bottle so I took it away for ever. He has never asked for one since. It has been since Feb 7th!! YAH!!!! Great chatting to you yesterday. Hopefully we can chat again tomorrow!! Alice-Congratulations!! I'm next, not sure when, I want a Spring baby for next year! Hopefully we can plan it, if not oh well! Practice makes perfect!! Paris-Your having too much fun!! Quite!! LOL!! I thought you came for a rest?? You will have to go home for a rest!! Is Quinn having a good time? Look what you started on the TT board? Oh well, it opened a whole new discussion! Touchy subject! My MIL said she would die if any of her grandchildren said they were gay or lesbians. Dh thinks his neice is a lesbian. She is 21, never had a boy friend to speak of, and has always lived with girls! Who knows. Her choice, not mine!! She is very different!! Whoever is going to New Brunswick, sorry I forgot to write who it was, bring lots of different clothing. The weather is weird here this time of year. Saturday was 75, Sunday was 8, Monday was 8, and today is 6 degrees or something like that. April is a weird month. Happy Easter Everyone! Have a great day, week, and nice long week-end!! Darleen & Nolan email: jndsmith@sprint.ca Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 16:54:09 (EDT)) Well, Paris here. Guess I stirred a bit up here eh? ha ha. I figured my inbox would be filled with hate mail. LOL Only one though. Just teasing Christi. :0) I'm just really strong on that issue. Anyway, a few personals from what I can remember. Helen: I've been to NB once. It's nice there! We drove through on our way back from Perce. I needed to see that rock. It's just gorgeous out there. :0) Have a good trip. Sorry it's going to be cold. When I get back to Alberta apparently we are going to be the warmest in the country. Yay!!! It's freezing here now though in Ontario. Jamie: Well said! I guess you do have a unique perspective. When my DH sees that look in my eye about some issue, he just backs away and tells the guy (usually) to just agree! LOL He's the same way though so I don't know why he gets all freaked about me speaking up. :0) Christi: Thanks for sharing your opinion. I emailed you back a reply. :0) Rita: Wow both of yours are close to Christmas! My neice is born on Dec. 19. You must just have a ton of toys around that time! Wow! Sue: Glad you had a good weekend. Sorry about the temper tantrum. We have those all the time now. :0) I think 15 months is a little young for time outs but you could try. Sarah: No, I haven't recieved any pics from you. Just Alice and Moriah. I'd love to see your little one! I really have to get some scanned of Quinn. I have some but they aren't recent. LisaB: That's really too bad about your friend and uncle. Unfortunately that still happens. I'm glad that we can express things like this. I really hope I didn't get any too riled up. :0) I love those big bouncy balls. I had one but it blew away. I need to get another one. Thanks for reminding me. Paula: They do have a deduction for dependents on the Ontario Tax thingie that goes with your taxes. Oh, the credit. It never made a difference with us though. Okay, well that's it! Sorry to get everyone all in arms about their beliefs! :0) Quinn is still chatting up a storm. It's amazing how much she can say. I guess it was always there she just didn't need to use it. ha ha. I'm off to visit my cousin. Talk to you all soon! Paris and Quinn email: pariscosby@hotmail.com Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 16:54:33 (EDT)) Hi Everyone! Darleen again. Sorry I posted twice for some reason. I always check my typing mistakes before I post, so I'm not sure why it does that. Paris- We must have posted at the same time. You are right, you are very opinionated, but if you sat back and let everyone walk all over you, then that's when everybody finds an easy target. I used to be very quiet, and let people do that to me, but now I defend myself and my family! And nobody will mess with Nolan either, he's going to be a toughy I think(hopefully). Moe- Enjoy the nice weather, send it to Ontario please. I know what you are saying, I grew up with Mexicans right from Mexico, and I tell you one of them ended up being my best friend, and she was made fun of all the time because of the way she dressed, talked, etc. Now she is married, and you wouldn't even know she was from Mexico. Who cares anyways!! I have a cousin that married a black guy, and they have 2 beautiful children, and they are the cutest 2 I have ever met besides my own, and he is the nicest guy I have ever met besides my husband, but who cares what we look like, how we dress, eat, fat, skinny, tall, short, etc. Lets all be friends, and hopefully meet one day!! I enjoy the TT board, and have met a lot of nice and interesting people! Keep smiling everyone!! :) HAPPY EASTER AGAIN!! Darleen & Nolan Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 17:13:29 (EDT)) Paris, I figured instead of causing more grief on TT I would e-mail you my response to your last post. First, I am a Christian, a person TRYING (not always succeeding) to live as Christ would. I do not like to "preach" at people, but figure everyone can share their opinion, I can share mine too. I hope you at least contemplate what I say. First, how can you look outside at our beautiful world and not believe in God? Second, you can not teach your children about something you do not believe, you just can't. Do you take them to church? You say you will let them decide, but if you do not properly teach them the beauty of God they will never really have a chance to decide. Homosexuality......you are right a big one. Many believe that homosexuals are born with their desires, however, my Bible says "God does not obligate nor encourage us to fulfill our desires. The desires that violate His laws must be controlled" This is not from a scripture, but a commentary. It sums up my beliefs. Even if we are "born" gay, we don't have to act on it. I am not saying I hate gay people, they are people and I should love all people. No person deserves to be murdered for homosexuality, skin color, etc. Those who do are just as much sinning against God. Society has degraded so much that those who believe God's laws are the ones who are put down for not being tolerant. Well, this is not my opinion, it is fact, one day Christ will return and those who did not receive Him and follow God's ways will be lost in an eternal hell, forever separated from God. You said it takes a strong person to stand up and say they are gay, well, not so in my opinion, it takes a stronger person to stand up and say it is wrong to act out homosexual desires. Just imagine what you are thinking of me right now, and add several million more who call me "intolerant". I am in no way saying I am a perfect person, or have all of the answers, I have more questions than I do answers, but I wanted to share my "two cents". I know by telling you this I am probably only making you think I am that much "worse" than you thought, but like I said, everyone shares their beliefs but gets mad when Christians start to speak up. Why is that? Are we too close to the truth? Are you afraid to hear what we have to say because deep down you are afraid we are right? I am sorry if this has taken on a bit of an angry tone. I would prefer to keep any problems off of TT and PST, I think there is a debate board somewhere on iparenting, but could not find the link. Thanks for "listening" Christi ****************************** I wasn't going to post this, but decided too bad. I know I seem to be the only one getting upset, maybe I am too sensitive. I really hate the idea of loosing this board of what I consider to be good friends. I am not a "religious fanatic" (Not that I think they are all bad.) I do not try to push my beliefs on others, but I am going to stand up for myself, and my beliefs. Will I love my kids if they infact are gay and act upon it? YES! Am I saying you should deny your self pleasure to please God? YES Do I have gay friends? YES DO I think they will go to hell if they do not change and confess? YES I do not think I am perfect, I do not judge others (lest I be judged). Well, I had a huge post but lost it, so I will stop now. I will check back in sometime. Christi Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 17:17:34 (EDT)) Just wanted to say....I am burning up....Its 94 degrees outside!!!That's all!!! Darleen - You are sweet!!! Moe again Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 18:19:11 (EDT)) Hi Everyone, Meg and Hana here: Patty: Glad I'm not the only one whose baby had mild chickenpox. Its rather weird because the rash is so feint you almost think its german measles or something like that. Normally they are supposed to have raised glands behind their neck if its german measles. The only thing that re-assures me that this is the pox is that once the antihistamine wears off then she starts getting itchy and generally irritable. I think its almost over. Most of my friends have never heard of mild chickenpox. Shelley: Hana is a teletubby fan too. As for the words ---- know them all too! Isn't it terrible how you find yourself watching teletubbies too! We watch at breakfast time every morning --- only way to keep Hana still so that I can feed her breakfast. Every other meal is a finger meal and she can feed herself ---- but breakfast there is no time for playing and eating. BIG HUUGGSSS! Darleen: I think its great that you are allowing your little boy to play with kitchen toys. He may just land up being a great chef or better still and good husband in the kitchen. Don't stop ---- eventually get him cooking with you and things like that. This way he will grow up enjoying cooking. Charline: Flying for me is also rather tricky. I asked my paed once what we could do. I have two trips to see grandparents which I know we are going to have to do the one being to Japan which is a loooongg flight ---- 23 hours. My paed said that generally under two they are not too much of problem (I'm not sure if he's ever flown with toddlers). As for the long trip he said normally he suggests that the parents give their paed an airplane ticket. Oh! Ye! I can just see him and my DH having a great holiday and leaving me with Hana. I have terrible earache on airplanes --- I'm so worried that Hana will have a problem. Perhaps there are some eardrops that you can take with you. And also I've heard that you can request to board the airplane first and have assistance. Good luck. Charlene: I can't believe that Colton has stopped his bottles. Thats amazing. I always look at everyone's little ones ages and I am amazed at the talking already. He sounds so cute. Alice: Congratulations!!!! I swear I sometimes also feel like saying I am pregnant. Oh! I am so pleased. I just remember that feeling when I found out I was pg with Hana. Your DH is from Trinidad. Just like your DH when we first came into Cape Town I was about 6 at the time, I thought the clouds over Table Mountain (huge mnt in the middle of CT) was snow. I was so excited. I can just amagine him being amazed at this white sand. Paula: That's amazing ---- maternity leave from 6 months to 1 year. They have only just changed our law to six months. This is much better ---- less pressure on the mother and child. Moriah: Congrats on the 1st year. I haven't read any ealier posts about your son --- so I'm not too sure about his illness, but I am pleased that he is making progress. He is obviously very special to you and your family. Helen: Smacking children is just very cruel to me. I grew up with a mother who always smacked us --- even used the belt alot. We lived in fear of her. I don't have a trusting relationship with her today and I never want to get close to her ---- I think its a protective instinctive thing. There were many other things that she did, so I am very against smacking ---- I just believe in having a voice for very dangerous things which I only use when the need arises so that she doesn't hear it all the time. But we take her away from anything that she persists on doing. I think disciplining is very difficult and it also depends on the type of temprament your child has. Christi: I suppose I wasn't very clear. Sorry, the bad circumstances I was referring too was the situation where parents loose them tempers all the time with their kids. Some parents really couldn't be bothered about thinking about what they are really doing --- some parents. I see so much of it and also, I come from a background where my mother was like that --- but she was mentally ill aswell ---- she really regrets it now and spends a great deal of time telling other younger parents what they shouldn't do when disciplining their children. As they say, if you're angry with your child count to ten first. Never discipline when you're angry. Hopefully this is a little clearer. LisaB: We still nurture Hana to sleep. I love the quiet time with her. It gives me a little energy booster. Especially before I come and post here. Jamie: That is so cute about Gabe trying to pick up your foot prints. Haley: Hana gave up her pacifier on her own. I had to give her a oral thrush ointment for this thrush that she got from using a liquid steriliser solution that was too strong --- I didn't know that I had to rinse the teat and bottle afterwards --- anyway, she wouldn't let me put the ointment in her mouth so I would put the ointment on her dummy. When the ointment stopped she decided that the dummy just didn't taste very nice. And she stopped using it. Now I have to think of something for this darn bottle. Theressa: Ooh! It sounds like pg. But then of course it may just be your mind ---- the vomiting and all. Did you say you fell pg using condoms and the pill - combined?. DH and I only use condoms ---- I just can't stand the pill. I think after my 2nd baby I will have my tubes tied and then if I want another later then they can untie. I just don't like the hormone adjustment. This is funny ---- although very serious ---- about 2years back our government went on this huge aids campaign handing out condoms and a pamphlets. Well some "really stupid people ---- if you ask me" stapled a couple of hundred thousand condoms to hundred and thousand pamphlets. Go figure!! Eventually it was in the press ---- how safe are these condoms now!!! How many unwanted pg happened as a result of this --- not to mention aids. Our government was very embarrassed. Paris: DH and I watched a wonderful gay video the other night. It was called "Get Real". The sensitivity and the words that these gay men used about their love for each other and etc. I asked my DH why he never told me the same things. They were so tender ---- I'm still awstruck!!! ---- DH just said, well thats why gay men get on so well with women. I agree, I just think that if my daughter grew up and turned into a lesbian, I'm not sure how I would handle that. It would bother me though. I've often wondered what really makes these women and men so different. Perhaps the way we bring our children up ---- perhaps its really not genetics. I really believe that we must just give everyone space to be themselves. I have many gay friends and boy some of them are worse than normal teenage hetrosexual relationships. But as someone said, just let there be love all around. Anyway, I missed out yesterday. I couldn't get beyond one of Paris' enteries. Sorry, Paris but I think your entry jammed up my system....... only kidding. Don't they have some sort of spooling thing here. When I scroll down to the bottom, I swear its going to make me very dizzy. Like playing some of those computer games. Hana is much better. The antihistamine is working well. The rash has covered her abdomen. She's much happier though. Probably by early next week it will be over. I tried to answer and respond to as many personals as possible. But I think its really getting quite long. I'll just say goodnight. Sleep well everyone!!! I may not post for a few days as I've got so much work to catch up on. Meg Meg & Hana (16.5 months) email: yoshi@iafrica.com Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 18:32:08 (EDT)) Hi ladies, Charline & Hayden here. Hayden just started a cold Sunday night. I just started giving him some Dimetapp.I hope that it helps him on the plane. This is Hayden's first cold that he has a cough with it and isn't his usual happy self. I hope that he gets better soon. Julianne-Colton sounds so cute calling you "h-ahhh-ne":) That's great that he is done with his bottle now. Good luck with Tequilla's treatment tommorrow. Alice-Congratulations! You sound so happy:) Paula-Caelen sounds so cute yelling Bahney! Moriah-Thanks for the welcome. I'm glad that Alex is doing so well. Thanks for the pics. They are adorable. I will be keeping Alex in my thoughts and prayers on the 25th for his surgery. That's great that it's going to be a year since Alex had to be hospitalized. Helen-I wish you didn't have to share that story with me about the plane accident. I am nervous about it as it is. Sarah-Hannah sounds so cute hugging and kissing the fake animals:) That is so cute that Hannah has to go outside to say good night to the moon. Christi-Thanks for the well wishes for our trip. LisaB-LOL about Max drawing pictures on the guy in front of him in church! Thanks for the well wishes for our flight. Jaime-LOL about Gabriel's foot fetish! Moe-Happy 20 month Birthday to AJ! Too funny about AJ yelling piece at communtion time. Hayley-Becca sounds too cute saying juice, juice at the wine tasting! Kahne-That's great that you will be getting a 3.5-4.0 this semester! Too funny that Kat loved the elephant but freaked out about touching a turtle. Patty-Jarin sounds like such a cutie. Thanks for the well wishes for my trip. Did you use the infant drops Dimetapp or the regular adult liquid? Too cute Jarin asking to nurse in the middle of church:) Paris-Thanks for the advice for the plane ride. Theressa-Wow, 3 hours at church! LOL about Bryton yelling "yipee it's over"! Thanks for the traveling tips and well wishes. Rita & Amy-Hi! Tara-I hope that Adriana feels better soon. Well, I probably won't have a chance to post tommorrow because I will be cleaning and packing. I want to wish everyone a Happy Easter that celebrates it! I'll try to check in at my mom's. Charline & Hayden(1 year ) email: charline@mediaone.net Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 18:33:25 (EDT)) Katy here Moirah- could you send me Alex pictures?? Okay for all who asked, Liam is wonderful. he was up and walking within two days of hurting his ankle, sooner than the doctor said. I guess Liam has his own idea of what he should be doing. When he was injured, he mostly played sick and was really cuddly, so I didn't have to try and keep him still. We took him to a Chinese buffet restaurant today. The poor waitress, I felt so sorry for her. Liam threw what he didn't like on the floor. And she would have to pick up after we left. I was so mortified. i guess we will have to be more careful in the future. Hope everyone is doing well. Katy and Liam email: princess__bride@hotmail.com Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 20:19:14 (EDT)) hELLO-- THE 'TONE' HERE IS GETTING REALLY 'stupid' IF i MIGHT SAY----oops the caps were locked-- anyway like I said earlier- people that think their being threatened by someone else's beliefs or not secure of their own seem to be the most defensive--- I see that happening. ( yes I am getting opinionated now)-- but if the shoe fits... as they say. Charline- didn't mean to scare you but it happens- just informing you. :O) Meg-- ok--- your taking what I said out of contex-- I believe LisaB also said what I did-- a swat gets their attention when they are not listening and out of control or in danger-- sorry you were abused but today's society-- in my opinion is proof that a swat now and then is needed-- kids these days-- well you know.. The dryer is fixed-- I guess there's a fuse that went on it-- now I'm doing laundry! Amanda tumbled down the stairs a while ago-- poor thing has a bump on her forehead:O( Other than being a little scared she will be fine. Time to get everyone in bed--- one more thing Darleen-- I think you said about the weather- I know its really 'yucky' up there now- hope it warms up for us! :O) Later!! Helen&Amanda@20mos(DS@14yrsDD@12yrs) email: MHIM27@worldnet.att.net Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 21:19:13 (EDT)) Hi...... it's Darleen again! Moe-Quite your belly aching about the weather you are having!!!!! I am so jealous! Where is it you live? I will be there as soon as I can. LOL! I wish we were having warm weather. It doesn't hit us until the long week-end in May, and sometimes it doesn't hit us until June. Have a great night! Enjoy your weather! Bedtime for Nolan, and I think for myself also! Darleen & Nolan email: jndsmith@sprint.ca Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 21:24:23 (EDT)) Hi...... it's Darleen again! Moe-Quite your belly aching about the weather you are having!!!!! I am so jealous! Where is it you live? I will be there as soon as I can. LOL! I wish we were having warm weather. It doesn't hit us until the long week-end in May, and sometimes it doesn't hit us until June. That's Ontario weather for you!! Have a great night! Enjoy your weather! Bedtime for Nolan, and I think for myself also! Darleen & Nolan email: jndsmith@sprint.ca Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 21:25:00 (EDT)) Sorry double post. It is the stupid computer, or the stupid person running the computer? I'm sorry girls. Have a great night! Darleen & Nolan Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 21:28:55 (EDT)) Hi my name is Shannon. I have benn watching the websit thru my e mail, and really like it. I have a 14 mo daughter name Melissa. Question for everyone. When your babies teeth were comming in how did you get your baby to eat. Melissa hardly eats. shannon email: shdume@cs.com Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 22:21:02 (EDT)) Hi my name is Shannon. I have been watching the website thru my e mail, and really like it. I have a 14 mo daughter name Melissa. Question for everyone. When your babies teeth were comming in how did you get your baby to eat. Melissa hardly eats. shannon email: shdume@cs.com Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 22:22:17 (EDT)) LOL LOL Darleen I had to say something about something...It was getting too serious in here. I live in Western Kansas. Heat, Rain, Snow, Wind like you would not believe!!! I think the high tomorrow will be 75! More like it. I am not a warm weather person!!If I could send you some heat...I would. ESP in July!! Good night!! Moe...Again Tuesday, April 18, 2000 at 23:57:19 (EDT)) Colton was talking in his sleep again this morning. He was fussing when I got up so I put him in bed w/ DH. DH said out of nowhere he said "honey"-in his cute way! DH started laughing so hard Colton woke up! Do any of your kids talk in their sleep? Patty: What sweet moments you share w/ Jarin. I keep telling myself to slow down and pay more attention to Colton and less to the house, dishes and even supper! Paris: Oops, seems my response to your post started something--not what I intended. Actually, I was more concerned about what others kids would do to another if they overheard a child's comment about wanting to be gay--most likely beat them up! I think our little ones are exposed to so many issues that they really don't understand when they should really just enjoy being a kid. Bye the way, I also enjoy watching Will & Grace. Meg: Too funny about Bryton bieng scared of bugs and the Cracker Barrel. Sarah: Getting rid of the bottle took a long time for Colton. My first step was to switch to only water in bottles. He still liked the water bottles for comfort though. He still asks for his bottle, but I tell him that he is too big and that they are all gone. He forgets about it fairly fast. Sue: I think at 15mo Cam is ready for short timeouts. What alot of yardwork you got done. Weren't you supposed to be enjoying a holiday? LOL Helen: I too hate trying to pack when the weather is so iffy. I never pack the right stuff. Hayley: Did Becca just start this fussing over you leaving? If so, it shouldn't last too long (hopefully). It's more of a mommy guilt trip. She's probably happy and playing by the time you are out of the driveway. Christi: Good for you for being such a strong Christian who is willing to stand up for what she believes. Tara: Hope Adraina feels better for the weekend. Meg: Had to laugh at the stapled condoms--what were they thinking??? Charline: Sorry to hear that Hayden has a cough--first cold? Wow, he must have a good immune system. Hope it clears up for the plane ride. Thanks for the good wishes for Tequila tomorrow. Katy: Glad Liam's ankle isn't bothering him much. It sure can be embarassing at the mess our tots make when out to eat. Helen: Glad Amanda didn't get hurt falling down the stairs. Melissa: Welcome. Teething and eating sure don't mix well. Fruit seems to work fairly well though. Night Everyone Julianne & Colton 21 mo email: jjones@howardmiller.com Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 00:48:52 (EDT)) Rebecca here... I've missed a few days so some of these responses are a little old... Beth - OUCH! I hope your lip is okay! Sue - Cam sounds absolutely adorable playing with the cat. Paige was playing with my friend's dog the other day. It was so cute and funny!!! LOL Alice - CONGRATS! In regards to the stairs, Paige is really good crawling up and down them BUT she's learned that if she's holding an adults hand she can walk upright. Needless to say I've been going up and down the stairs quite a bit. Meg - sorry to hear that Hana got the chickenpox. I think Paige may have been exposed to it, time will tell. Paula & Paris - I live in Surrey BC, I just moved from Vancouver. LisaB - our bedtime ritual includes a bottle and a cuddle then to the crib with both blankies. We have a little wind up music box on the side of her crib that plays twinkle twinkle for about 5 minutes and that's it. We leave the room as soon as we put her down and she falls asleep on her own. We did start this by 6 months, so she's used to it. We do the same for nap times. The bad part is hse doesn't like to sleep anywhere but her crib (or the one at my parents house). I noticed some of you talking about Barney and Teletubbies. Here in BC we have a great station called Treehouse. It plays preschool programming 24hrs a day without any commercials. At least I know that she's not watching anything violent or scary (and there's no advertising, so no begging!!!). We've had some beautiful weather here the last couple of days. Today I walked to the park with Paige to meet some friends (about 30 minutes). The walk was great until I had to go home Uphill!!! Lets just say that my muscles have felt better.LOL I thought about posting my opinion on the current hot topics but have decided against it. Not that my views aren't strong, it's just I come here to talk to other moms about the joys and pains of parenthood. I hope all of us can feel comfortable expressing our views here, I mean what are FRIENDS for? XOXO Rebecca & Paige email: burn@canadawired.com Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 02:12:55 (EDT)) Hi ladies! Sarah g here. It's been forever, again since my last post. Sofia turned one on April 7th. She's becoming more vocal lately. Not interested in walking yet, though. We had a family party at home and Sofie ate cake and climbed up and sat on her gifts! Isaac will be three in a couple of weeks. Things have been really hard lately. My grandma passed away last week. She'd had cancer, been fighting it off and on for the last 10 years. I spent a lot of time with her the last days before she passed. She loved the kids so much. Even when she was suffering so badly, she smiled to see them. Oh, it's difficult. On to something else..... I've totally missed you guys. Thanks for the emails Melissa and Beth. Louise- Congratulations on your new home!! Darleen- Have you found work? I remember you were looking around last I was posting. Helen- I'm sorry for your friend. Based on my past week with my grandma, I can say just really spend time letting your friend how you feel about her. That's something she can take with her. Food and any other support for the family is wonderful. Sorry to hear about Amanda's fall. Julianne- Hi! Funny when these little guys talk in their sleep, huh! Isaac does sometimes. Gotta go! Take care ladies!!!! Sarah g email: gat_men@hotmail.com Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 02:39:25 (EDT)) Hi Everyone, In for my usual late night post, and I'm sorry, but I never seem to be able to read all of the posts. Shannon-Welcome, Caelen also will not eat whenever he is cutting a tooth. Generally though as soon as the tooth cuts his appetite will increase. ( I can't wait until all of his teeth are through) Everybody seems to have wonderful bedtime routines. My little spoiled monster slept with us until he was 14 months old (not out of choice, but more due to lack of willpower and sleep), until the day he started daycare. Ever since he goes to bed like a little angel. We just have to say " do you want to go night nights?', and he will grab his "sucky" and bottle, and run around and give everyone kisses. I prayed for the first 14 months of his life that he would get his father's sleepiness gene, and it finally seems to have worked. LOL!!! Thanks for the good wishes on the house, they seem to have worked, our offer was accepted. The only problem is that now I have to move. I must be nuts!!!! Rebecca-Surrey, wow, we're next door neighbours. Well everyone, have good sleeps. Paula & Kids Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 03:45:23 (EDT)) Ok - enough debate (Not that there is anything wrong with that - Sienfeld) Went to the dr today, and the results came back Neg. I am both relieved and disappointed. I mean DH and I did decide to wait on our next PG (I need to get into shape, he is thinking about changing jobs so he can persue his comedy easier) and we wanted to be sure that we were not just trying to "replace" Thad. (Some grief counselors say to wait.) So we had both made the choice to be practical and wait at least a year. But then, when AF was late, both of us started realizing how much we both wanted to have another baby. And if I had been PG, we would have been very happy. But now we have the results, so we are back to the original plan. I did however talk to the Dr about help to lose weight, so I can get back into shape faster, so I can get PG sooner... It is just that the healthier I am before I get PG, the easier the PG is. My last PG wasn't bad, but it wasn't good either (backaches, loss of energy, etc.) Ususally being PG doesn't stop me from anything, but this last one did. Anyway, I'll do personals later (maybe - most were responses to the debate, so I'll refrain from answers there) But I wanted to let everyone know the results. Theressa email: labor_story@yahoo.com Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 04:30:43 (EDT)) Hello from Helen&Amanda!!! Its raining here---yuk!! We are leaving at the crack of dawn in the morning- we are taking 2 vehicles- DH and DS are bringing their dirt bikes and dh doesn't want to haul it that far w/my truck-- in case something happens- paid too much for it! LOL!! So its last minute things today- and the pain in the butt is trying to figure out if the easter baskets will look 'even'!!!! So I will have to get a couple thongs and cards too. I also have to call the doc b/c I am on my 3rd RX for PPD or whatever it is and I am itchy- one side effect- called last week and she said oh- dry skin--NOOO- I think I know dry skin!!! So now that I've almost itched myself RAW-I will call and see what they say now.( thank goodness for acrylic nails- they don't itch like real ones or I would be bloody-LOL! Rita- hope the root canal is done- hated having mine done! Julianne-- I hear you on the packing- I will have twice as much as needed b/c of their crazy weather. Katy--Good that Liam is feeling better- Amanda is also a very messy eater- especially at the chinese restaurant! I feel like I should carry a dust buster in my purse!LOL!! Sarahg-- SO sorry your Grandmother passed away--- cancer is terrible though. Happy 1st B-day to Sofia!!!! Theressa-- Glad you had a PG test and know for sure-- yes I'm sure you were disappointed-- I think waiting is a good thing- emotionally and physically you'll feel better in a few mos-- My heart goes out to you--:O( OK-- send the tips on getting into shape- I need them! I'm more lumpy and stretched after the 3rd! LOL! Better go and get started on my crazy day--Later!! One more thing- I've said my peace w/the issues and thats it for me- If anyone needs to keep it going e-mail eachother or me- I agree this is a toddler site-- remember when Manon from PT was being bitched at--Crystal--- And Birdie left b/c of it?? Who knows how many others did/will do the same, myself included- lets try and keep it pleasant here--BYE!!:O) :O) Helen&Amanda@20mos(DS@14yrsDD@12yrs) email: MHIM27@worldnet.att.net Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 08:20:54 (EDT)) Hi! It's Martha. Sorry this will be a quick post with no personals. It's morning and I have a job to do - take care of my baby girl. I can't post at night or read posts b/c this board does not load completely. Anyway, I am sorry to see this board go downhill like it has. This is not the forum for expressing views on religion, and homosexuality. Since we cannot see each other and talk face to face, some people have taken the liberty to let it all hang out and speak their entire mind. How egotistical! No one is going to change their mind because of it. I feel like I have sunken to a new low by responding to this. I hope everything gets back to normal soon. I will check back at another time. Take care! And love those babies. Martha & Mary Beth (13 months) email: eaufuldi@cub.kcnet.org Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 10:47:57 (EDT)) Good morning from Sue and Cam! Well, I hope the morning is better where you guys are than here - it's pouring, dark, and raw outside. I know the rain is good (especially after breaking my back in the garden on Monday!), but I'm starting to feel like a mushroom living in the dark and damp. Not much happening with me except all you pg-again moms are really giving me a case of the baby bug. I was warned by my OB/GYN to NEVER try another pg of my own, but I've been dreaming about babies and find myself drawn to moms and their newborns while I'm out and about. I suppose this feeling will pass...boo hoo. SHANNON - welcome! My son (15 1/2 months) also goes on mini hunger strikes when he's about to cut a tooth. He'll usually eat a little of something cold like applesauce, jello, frozen yogurt, etc. Must feel good on his sore gums. It's not all that nourishing, but at least he's not hungry. He goes right back to eating fine once the tooth pokes through. Good luck! Poor Cam took a spill this a.m. at daycare and has a big knot on his head. :-( Thanks for your advice on time-outs, I tried a real short one (about 45 seconds) last night. When it was done, Cam came over, asked to be picked up, then gave me a big hug and put his head on my shoulder! After that, I forgot why I put him in time out in the first place. Have a fun day. I'm going out at lunchtime to pick up some Easter goodies - and might just have to treat myself to a goody or two myself (especially seeing my birthday is on Sunday too!). Smiles and slobbery kisses! Sue and Cameron email: sbarry@key.org Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 11:10:44 (EDT)) Real quick question. Do any of you have problems with your hair falling out? Every since I had AJ, my hair has thinned out. I understand after having the baby....but still? I used to have wavey hair I could just wash my hair and let it air dry and I had instant perm. Now, no curl or nothing. It is not fair what our bodys go through. In my case, bigger feet, no hair and a flatter chest and I mean FLAT!!! LOL Moe and AJ Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 11:59:09 (EDT)) Hello from Rita Well the weather is quite nice for a change - I wish I could play hooky and spend the day outside with DH and the girls... Helen - I still have some pain, so it may not be over yet. It sounds like quite a chore getting ready for a trip. We have our trailer to tow and DH talks about getting dirt bikes, which would mean another vehicle and trailer to tow on our excursions. Too much I say! Martha - I hope that you can come back soon. Things will settle down and get back to normal, I assure you. I 'll miss you and Mary Beth. Sarah g - So sorry about your Grandma. How wonderful to have spent quality time with her. Your birth story is on the site this week. Theressa - I can understand your disappointment, even though you hadn't planned to be PG at this time.:-( Here's to getting back in shape (I join you on that one - so hard after two babies in two years) and getting PG once again!+++ Katy - Good for Liam. He is certainly a trooper! Rebecca - Amy still gets down to crawl up or down any steps. When she sees a portion of the sidewalk that is buckled up, she will often get down and crawl over it like it is a step. At least it slows her down a bit. Julianne - How's scrappin? I have been working away the past few nights since I have a crop on Friday night and I have to finish a gift album by Saturday. I still haven't played with the scanner to figure out how to scan my layouts and now I have to compete with Maddy for computer time, too. Lisa B - How's the peanut doing? Does this little guy move around more than Max did? Amy was less squiggly than Maddy - but you wouldn't know that now. He he. Well, time to delve into some work. Take care everyone! Rita & Amy email: ritad@home.com Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 12:29:35 (EDT)) Hi from LisaB. My son is quite the character!!! He would RUN through the house playing and then lunge onto my lap, give me a quick snuggle, giggle a little, and hop down and ran off again!!! Good thing he was so much fun then as he was rather irritating on the commute in this morning. He's discovered how to take the velcro straps off his car seat toy - so he takes it off, throws it in the floor board, and then cries wanting it back. I finally popped in one of his children's musical tapes and he was happy - dancing in his carseat. LOL!!! I also got some good news - my sitter is going to start providing lunch for Max effective today!!! SARAH: How sweet that Hannah has to say goodnight to the moon!!! Max voluntarily gave up his bottles around his 1st birthday. He had been using a cup off and on some and one day refused a bottle. We put them up and he never seemed to mind. I think it helped that the little boy at daycare who is about 6 months older than Max had started using a cup full-time right around then - LOL!!!! SUE: Welcome to the wonderful world (NOT) of tantrums!!!! I always try to keep my calm by telling myself that Max is only throwing a fit as that's the only way he has to express his frustation, etc. - but I STILL feel like pulling MY hair out!! RITA: I'm glad you're getting a break from the dentist!! How is the new job going? HELEN: We have a satelite dish also, but put up an antenna so we can get the local stations (as we live in a rural area an antenna is required to get ANYTHING but static!!!). HAYLEY: I don't really have any suggestions on comforting Becca. Max goes with DH and me in the morning and he gets dropped off at daycare before the 2 of us go to work. He's gone to the same sitter since he was 8-9 weeks old and is so used to her and the kids I think it prefers them to us sometimes - LOL!!! Yesterday a cartoon was on and he crawled right up on the love seat, cuddled up next to the sitter. The sitter told him to tell me bye and he waved in my general direction - never taking his eyes off the tv. We've had a few days when he cried as I left but every day but one he was happy by the time I got to the door (one day he cried for 1/2 hour after I left … and got a high fever that afternoon and was diagnosed with strep throat). Maybe some type of bye-bye rituation and a "Mommy's home" ritual (similar to a bedtime routine) would be helpful so that Becca knows what to expect. JAIME: Wow!!! You DO have a unique perspective on the gay issue, don't you?! Selective hearing is often required around MILs, isn't is?! LOL!!!! Pregnant brain must be at work - I don't remember that you are pg. When are you due again? MOE: I'm sorry you've had to deal with prejudice first hand. I have to some extent due to a speech impediment as a child - I know it's different but I fully realize how hurtful comments and actions can be, especially to a young child or teenager who already has self esteem issues. Hopefully we can raise our children to be more tolerant and to celebrate, versus condemn, differences. Just think how boring the world would be if we were all the same?!! PARIS: I'll e-mail you pictures of Max. If I forget … be sure to remind me!!!! CHRISTIE: I agree with a lot (but not necesassary ALL of what you said). You are a very "big" person to be so accepting of your gay friends, etc. when you disagree with their lifestyle and you should be commended for that!! I hope you continue to post here. I consider myself to be fairly religious and open minded but I know the past few years on PT, BT, and now TT have really helped to increase my faith and "broaden my perspectives" as I see some of the decisions other people have made, miracles like the progress little Alex has made since his birth, how much fullfillment people like you get from their religion, etc. MEG: Stapled condoms - what a riot!!!! CHARLINE: I hope Hayden recovers from his cold quickly. I use regular adult Dimetapp for Max - but only 1/2 teaspoon every 4 hours (per his doctor). KATY: I'm glad to hear Liam's ankle is doing better. Max also throws food on the floor sometimes. I figure waitresses get paid (plus a large tip from me) to clean it up. I remember working on DQ - some teenagers sat back in a corner, just before closing, and squirted ketchup ALL over the windows. THAT is what upsets me - when they are old enough to know better!!! HELEN: YEAH (maybe?! LOL!!!) for being about to do laundry!!! SHANNON: Welcome! Max's appetitie decreases some when he's teething. I figure if he's only "off" for a few days it's ok - he's like me, chubby enough to survive on his own body fat for awhile. LOL!!! JULIANNE: I don't THINK Max talks in his sleep (I'm generally asleep or in another room when he's sleeping so I probably wouldn't hear him if he did!!!!). SarahG: Happy belated birthday to Sofia!!! I'm so sorry to hear about your grandma. PAULA: Yeah on getting the house!!! Ok - enough debate (Not that there is anything wrong with that - Sienfeld) THERESSA: I completely understand your conflicted feelings on the negative pg test. SUE: Sorry for Cam's banged up head, the poor guy. RITA: "Peanut" is doing pretty good. I feel a lot of squirming already, some strong enough I think DH and Max could feel (if they touched me at the right time!!!). I never felt Max this early so it's hard to say if this one moves more or less. DH is out of town for work and I got sick this morning. Max stood by the toilet, crying hysterically, as I was vomiting. It scared him pretty bad and I was too sick to do anything but hold his hand. I felt so bad for him. One last, final comment on the recent topics on this board. I DO see religion, homosexuality, etc. as valid issues to discuss on this board. I also want the topic to disappear, based on everyone's reactons, but think we should all be able to express opinions on topics like this that directly relate to how we raise our children. - as PARENTING is the purpose of this board. LisaB & Max (19 mo) & 18 wk pg email: lisa_lab@hotmail.com Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 13:31:32 (EDT)) Hayley here. Yeah, Becca finally went to bed last night without having a thousand duck fits about not getting her "binky." She still asked for it, but then said "all done!" Took her to a restaurant in our neighborhood last night and watched her throw 1/2 her food and most of her crayons on the floor. Thank god we're big tippers! Theressa - it's probably really good news that you're not PG. If I recall, you were on the IUD or something. It's not really a good idea to get pregnant when you're on birth control like that or the pill - the effect of the method on the developing fetus can't be a positive. Wait until you're both ready, and make sure you're off whatever you've been on for at least a couple weeks before you start trying (use condoms or the sponge (do they still make it?) in the interim). Makes me think of that Seinfeld where Elaine tries to decide if a guy is "spongeworthy!" LOL! Lisa B - thanks for the advise on separation anxiety - I'll try a routine w/Becca. Katy - sorry about Liam's little ankle! Sarah G - sorry about your grandma - my mother died last year, although it was fortunately very quick. Very stressful. hayley and becca, 19 mos. email: hayley.thompson@citicorp.com Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 13:54:17 (EDT)) Hi Everyone from Alice and Nathan, Well I was wrong about being 3wks pg, I was almost 3 months, sadly I had a miscarriage on Tuesday, I'm okay though, better today than yesterday. It will happen when it is meant to be. I'm putting my two cents in on the current discussions going on about being gay. THERESA - I totally disagree with you on teaching your children that gay is wrong, you say they can have gay friends but not be gay themselves, you are sending your kids mixed signals make up your mind what you want and stick to it you can't have it both ways. You are, whether you believe it or not, breeding hatred in your children. I would like to know what you teach your children about other nationalities and religions? I will be totally honest with you I do not want my children to come home one day and tell me that they are gay but you know what I would deal with it and support them NO MATTER WHAT. Don't get me wrong, please, I don't want to start a verbal war here, I just strongly disagree with your views. I think that because I just lost the baby that maybe my opinions might be a little harsher, because believe me if I could have kept the pg and told my child would be gay I wouldn't care. PARIS - This is your fault, talking about will and grace, lol, anyways I think that you choose your sexuality, i do not believe that you are born gay. PAULA - good for you on taking the silent road, I am just too opinionated. HELEN - I agree with you on evolutionism it is your own choice, and who cares as long as it is not being shoved down our throats. OMG i just read that you are from Moncton, my DAD is from Shediac. JAMIE - I love your post and your views are very positive, way to go! CHRISTI - I have to respond to your post, I beleive in God and I teach my Son about the bible, but this is when the Christian faith bothers me, you say in the bible God does not encourage us to fulfill our desires, we do not put down those who believe in God's laws, but make up your mind and take a stance you cannot believe that homosexuality is "wrong" as stated in your bible, and them embrace your friends who are homosexual, you are a hypocrite. To all the moms who are pissed at us for veiwing our opinions too bad, for those who feel we are insecure about our ourselves because we have to view our opinions, I say it is you who are insecure, could it be you really can't handle what we are saying. RELAX......it's just a discussion, we are all entitled to our opinions. If I have offended anyone today I do truly apologize, if my statements came accross too harsh it is only because I truly believe what I said, I practice what I preach. On a further note those who have not encounted prejudism in their life, may not take this as strongly as those who have. I experience prejudism almost on a daily basis, and it is my job to educate stupid prejudist people, whether they listen is their job. Okay that's my final "2 cents" on the issue, back tomorrow to talk about toddlers. Bye Alice & Nathan email: alicita@idirect.ca Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 15:07:31 (EDT)) Hello from Helen&Amanda!! I just got back from 'speed shopping' for last minute items I don't want to run out of and Easter 'stuff'. Now i have to run again but thought i would get a couple personals done-- Rita-- we are taking two vehicles and its a 9 hour drive-- I would rather be the passenger so I could read and relax! Your still in pain?? Hope its over soon. :O( Lisab-- Yes we also have the other TV's with static and antennas that we're forever moving around!! Poor Max watching you get sick. :O( Hayley-- great becca went to bed w/out the binky!! Alice-- sorry about the miscarriage. Glad your doing better today. :O( I didn't know I said anything about evolutionism-- must have been someone else?? I was the one that said the ones that are getting defensive are insecure about their beliefs or feel they are being threatened--- Its OK to direct it to me-- and by the way---- I rest my case. Yes I.m from Moncton-- we have friends in Shediac-- small world-- do you ever visit there?? Well I should go-- hope things are back to normal when I return---- HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE!!!!!!!! Later!! Helen&Amanda@20mos(DS@14yrsDD@12yrs) email: MHIM27@worldnet.att.net Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 16:17:47 (EDT)) Alice again, I have to post again. I am sooo angry, not at the discussion, well related to the discussions we are currently having. For those of you and Christi who are applauding her for "tolerating" her gay friends, shame, shame on you. I am a white woman married to a black man with a beautiful mixed child, and if I could count the amount of times people have thrown that tolerance thing my way, it would make you sick. All I can say is Christi your gay friends are pretty stupid or have pretty low self asteem to want to be in the company of someone who tolerates them. Christi why do you have to e-mail me why can't you express your answer to me on TT, and do you know what else has pissed me off, you are so self centered that all you read in my post was my "attack" against you, if your gonna dish it out learn how to take it, if you would have bothered to read my whole post you would have read something, I would think, far more important to a God fearing person like yourself, thanx for the condolences on losing the baby. This is total b.s. I don't have time for this Bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Alice Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 16:55:21 (EDT)) Helen - sorry about that, i am so angry i don't know who wrote it anyway, i haven't been to shediac my parents return all the time. do you speak french? My father's last name is Pellerin, know any of them? Have a great trip, too bad wasn't lobster season. Alice Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 17:01:20 (EDT)) Hello Again all! This will be a short one again. I am not in the mood to read and type today...Maybe tomorrow. Alice I just wanted to tell you that I am sorry that you miscarried. I lost my baby in the third month before AJ. But in 3 months I was PG again and had my big 9 pounder. It was wierd when I told people that I miscarried, a lot of people said that they had too. Not too many people talk about it. I know how you feel. Take Care Moe and AJ Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 17:06:20 (EDT)) Hi Everyone! Darleen here! This is getting ridiculous now! Enough already! We are on here to chat about our TODDLERS! NOT black, green, purple, gay, lesbians etc! You get my point!! I voiced my opinion, and now it is time to change the subject. Go to another chat board and post about this topic if that's all you've got to talk about all day! I want to talk about my toddler and the different milestones we are all facing. They are why we are on this board! If somebody wants to start a BITCH board go ahead, but not here! Personels: Alice-Sorry about your lose! I'm sure it is very upsetting for all of you! Gets lots of rest! Helen_ Have a great trip! For those of you that watch Will and Grace, I thought it was a stupid show!! I watched it for the first time last night to see what everybody thought was soo funny. I liked Ellen much better when it was on. My favorite show is Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? And Beverly Hills 90210, and Friends(hint, hint, that is what we are all suppose to be)!! Gotta go, don't have time for the crap that is going on TT. I hope it changes soon!! HAPPY EASTER to all mine and Nolan's TT friends!! Darleen & Nolan email: jndsmith@sprint.ca Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 17:21:30 (EDT)) Hi everyone, Meg here: Phew!! I hope everyone has got this gay thing off their chests. This was just a discussion and really, I think what is important is that we really find tolerance for each other. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and just leave it at that. Just some quick personals: Theresa: Sorry about the negative. I'm sure that in time when you are feeling fit again and lost some of your weight you will be able to try again. Just take it easy on yourself. You sound like such a good mommie. Alice: Sorry about losing your baby. Three months! Phew! This is a long time to be pg and to lose the baby. Just take it easy. I hope that you are feeling much better. I think it doesn't matter how far you are --- losing a baby is just difficult. My thoughts are with you. Rebecca: Paige may only have symptoms in about 14 - 20 days from the time she was exposed to the virus. Some children have it so mildly that the parents don't even know that they have the pox. Julianne: I think the Bryton barrel thing was Theresa's little boy --- but don't worry it can get very confusing with all these names. Today there were these real big hairy looking spiders on some documentary on tv and Hana went and hid behind the chest of drawers and just peeked out to look at them. She was pointing and was really quite afraid of them. Go figure!! Shame, the tv bugs really scared her. But real live ones interest her!!!!???? Helen: You're obviously an experienced mother by now --- 14 years --- gosh thats alot more parenting years than me!!! I can understand the need to "swat" them but for me I really do not want to do this and I really believe that there are alternative ways of disciplining. But don't get me wrong, I'm sure that your children are not "emotionaly scarred" through giving them a "swat". You obviously balance this with a lot of love and understanding. This is important. Well, everyone, Hana is doing much better. This morning she woke up EARLY and seemed to be full of energy and life. I decided to find out if she was still contageous (can't spell) and I was told that she most likely wasn't. So we trotted off to moms and tots. I really needed the adult company and Hana needed to get involved in other activities. Too much indoor and home activities were really starting to bore her. Her spots had cleared although there were just a few --- but they were not crusty or oozing with liquid or anything like that. I'll probably have to have a blood test oneday to check if it really was chickenpox --- it definetly wasn't anything else --- just doesn't seem to fit any of the other diseases. I'll wait till she has to have a blood test for something else before testing. I don't want to let her go through the whole blood taking thing if it wasn't urgent. Thank goodness we can get back to some normal time now. She spent most of the day just talking and using her tongue to make all different sounds. Boy if this is how much she talks now, can you amagine when the words and questions start coming along. She is just so cute. I think I could eat her up. Have a great easter everyone. Watch those calories!!! Meg Meg & Hana (almost 17 months) email: yoshi@iafrica.com Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 17:48:41 (EDT)) Hi from LisaB. I forgot to mention that Max was playing hide-n-seek with me last night. He would stand in the living room, in full view, and kinda turn his face to the wall. I would say "where's Max" and look all around the room. He would turn to face me, I would say "there he is", and he would giggle. So adorable!!! I needed all the fun last night - I got all weepy with DH Sunday night telling him that when Max and I reviewed Max's day at bedtime every fun thing I mention was something he did with DH. I was too busy cleaning, going to church, etc. to actually sit down and enjoy my little angel. :-( ALICE: I'm so sorry to hear about your miscarriage. I'm sorry you are so angry but I hope you and other posters can see past this whole gay issue. We don't all have to agree … we are adults and can agree to disagree and move on to other issues. If you want to discuss this issue further or vent, please fill free to e-mail me. I'll gladly listen to your venting without judgment!!! MEG: I'm glad Hana is feeling better. Now - in an attempt to COMPLETELY change the subject … As you all probably know, I'm expecting anywhere from 2-4 weeks after Max turns 2. I plan to give Max a present in the hospital, the first time he meets his brother. I'm also planning to have a few little gifts/treats laying around the house to give to Max when everyone comes bearing gifts for him and not the baby. I also plan to have no company for 24 hours after arriving home from the hospital, to give Max a little time to adjust to having a baby in the house. I know several of you (Rita, Debbie, Christi, etc.) have kids that are about 2 years apart. Do you guys, or anyone else, have any other suggestions or ideas on how to help Max understand about the baby and to adjust once the baby comes home?! Thanks in advance for your input!!! LisaB & Max (18 months) email: lisa_lab@hotmail.comc Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 18:13:30 (EDT)) Christi - If u don't want to come back for more stop e-mailing me, and that is crap about upsetting "your friends" on tt, if a person feels strongly about something they have the right to view their opinion, right or wrong, good or bad. You have saddly mistaken what I said, you think I feel bad because others don't accept me, if they are of the same mind set as you, lady I don't want or need yours or anybody's acceptance, what a bullshit word, acceptance, tolerance, i hate them all. Why do we have to"accept" people. What I said is I feelit is my job as an intelligent human being to educate these prejudist stupid people. And no we are not going to agree, please keep your religion where it belongs, church, temple, synagogue etc... you pick, I'm done. Don't e-mail me anymore on this topic. Alice Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 18:18:31 (EDT)) Hello--- A quickie to LisaB----- DS and DD are 24 mos apart, actually 10 days less-- Feb--15&26th. DS loved the t-shirt I had for him when he came to the hospital-- 'I'm the big brother'!!! He was so proud of it --Take care. :O) Helen&Amanda@20mos(DS@14yrsDD@12yrs) email: MHIM27@worldnet.att.net Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 19:05:27 (EDT)) I have kept out of this for a long time, it seems. BUT for all of you intolerant, stupid people, guess what I AM A BI SEXUAL. I was sexually molested for most of my life by a "GOD FEARING", devoted husband and father. He was my stepfather. FOR A LONG TIME,I could not STAND to have a man near me. THEREFORE, I turned to the company of women. IF THAT BOTHERS YOU I AM NOT SORRY. For all of you RELIGIOUS people, e mail me and there will be a problem. THANK YOU FOR INSULTING ME AND FOR NOT KNOWING ALL OF THE FACTS!! Kahne and Cat 15 months email: kahneandsteve@megagate.com Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 19:55:14 (EDT)) All I got to say is GOOD FOR YOU KAHNE ( I HOPE I SPELLED IT CORRECTLY) now maybe all of these bleeding heart religious fanatics will drop the subject. I am very sorry for your past but I am glad you got on with your life and that you have found love somewhere else. I am laughing my ass off, but most certainly not at your expense honey, I think you might have dropped some mouths and inserted some feet. YEAH KAHNE, more power to you. Sincerely, Alice Wednesday, April 19, 2000 at 20:31:07 (EDT)) Poor DH had a hard time w/ Colton when I went to class tonight. For some reason when he woke up from his nap all he wanted to do was cry for an hour. Finally DH took him for a ride to see Grandpa & Grandma. By the time I came home he was back to being a happy happy boy. DH sure was tired out though! Tequila had her treatment today and had a reaction to it: started really drooling & moaning bad. They caught it right away and gave her a steroid via IV and she started to get more comfortable. She gets another shot tomorrow morning and they will automatically give her the steroid too. We should be able to bring her home tomorrow evening. She'll be spoiled and allowed to sleep in the kitchen! Rebecca; I can't wait to start talking walks in the park again. We should be getting nice weather soon, I hope! SarahG: Great to hear from you again. Happy 1st birthday to Sofie late. So very sorry to hear aobut your Grandma. My thoughts are with you and your fmaily. Paula: Se are still struggling with Colton at bedtime. He is sleeping with DH right now because I didn't want to put up w/ the screaming--took the easy way out. Theressa: Glad you got tested, at least you know. I think it is great that you have a plan and are trying to get in shape both physically & mentally before your next pg. Helen: AKA Itchy & Scratchy...hope you get some relief soon. Have a great trip. Sue: Hope you get some sunshine soon. We are having thunderstorms here tonight. The electric went out while I was in the middle of reading posts. Glad the time out worked for Cam & you--since you forgot so quickly what he did wrong. LOL Moe: Sorry about the hair loss, mine's thicker now. No, I won't share--I had really thin hair all my life. Rita: Haven't been scrapbooking lately--too busy. I really wanted to attend the National Scrapbook Day Crop but just can't fit it in. She was going to have some really neat prizes and t-shirts for everyone too. Oh well, maybe next year. LisaB: Glad the children's tape worked. The other day Colton was fussing and crying for his Toot Toot book and I kept telling him it wasn't in the truck. When I got to daycare there it was laying on the other side of the carseat. He could see it, but not reach it. I felt so bad. Hayley: Congrats on no binkie. Alice: So sorry to hear you had a miscarriage. Meg: Glad Hana's feeling better. So, what are you all doing for your little one's for Easter? I am giving a basket of treats and small toys (one for DH too!) and having an egg hunt. I bought some plastic brightly colored eggs that open for small surprises. I wonder who will have more fun Colton or his parents. LOL I just have to remember to charge the battery to the video camera tomorrow. Julianne & Colton 21 mo email: jjones@howardmiller.com Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 00:11:53 (EDT)) Okay, girls! Paris here. Let's all just relax. Christ, I feel horrible about ever saying Alex said he was gay! I didn't think we'd all be up in arms. Alice is ready to tear people's heads off and well she can. LOL I'm gonna change the whole topic and you guys can pick on me for a while. ;0) That's a wink! Okay, I'll tell ya about my trip. I wasn't going to but I will cuz I think we need a change of pace. Ready girls? I'm wild! Sure you're ready? Well, I'm on vacation so hey, I get outta hand. Thursday night I went out, ended up running into a guy I went to high school with - he's a nice guy. He wanted me to stay at the bar so he bought me a drink and took me back to where I was staying. No biggie. He stayed cuz he was hammered and he's a pilot. So, I said there is no way that you are driving cuz you'll lose your pilots license. Anyway, Friday we went out again. It was pretty boring til we went to this one bar and there was this guy dressed in this really nice leather jacket. My friend was hammered, so I told her to go and talk to him. She did, he came over and now he wants to take me out to dinner in Toronto, but I'm leaving tomorrow so I'm not going. Okay, Saturday, ran into a lot of friends from way back when. I spent the night with two Mafia guys. We got a room at the Ramada and drank all night. My friend Mary left with Blair (new guy in her life) and Dee went and visited the homeless guy in the bank machine thing. ha ha. I know it was stupid of us to split up like that, but we did. I felt like I was with a comedy act or something. Way too much fun but so connected. I kept teasing them about it. Anyway, I'm known them for 15 years it wasn't like I was with the godfather or anything. I took it easy for a couple days after that. Then last night I got together with my cousin and we went to the strip club. Women strippers not men. I'd never been so I wanted to go. It was weird cuz hey, I'm a snob and well it was strange to see naked women rubbing themselves all over guys on a stage for like $2. Then we went into the lap dance room and I got thrown out cuz I was asking a stripper how she could do that! :0) I'm so nice. Sorry if any of you are strippers. Actually, my cousin I went with was a stripper and one of my good friends is a stripper. I wasn't going to put any of my little escapades on here but I figured we needed a change of topic and since it was pretty much my fault to start with the whole other thing, I thought, hey, I'd do this too. ha ha. By the way, my daughter was not with me for any of this. I do hope one day she can grow up and have as much fun as I do all the time. Life is a journey and I intend to experience it to the fullest! And, Yay, for me! :0) Okay, one or two personals. Alice: I'm not even gonna say sorry cuz I know it's ticking you off. I still love ya honey even if we disagree. :0) I tried to call you like a million times tonight you little internet addict. lol I have to leave in the morning and I wish we could have gotten together. You could have come to see the stippers with me. :0) You know we'd be getting in way too much trouble together. ha ha. Julianne: You didn't make me mad, I'm just really opinionated about well everything. :0) And I really need to wash my hair right now. ha ha. That has nothing to do with anything but I do need to wash it, it's bugging me. Kahne: Good for you for speaking up! I can't believe the can of worms I opened here with an episode of Will and Grace, but I do think it's good. I really do! These are the kind of things that change attitudes and make the world a better place. :0) Again, good for you! Anyway, I cannot believe how much Quinn has started to talk! It's amazing! I'm so afraid she's gonna stop when we go back tomorrow. I hope she doesn't. It's so cute. She says to everyone, "Bye, see ya later!" Way too adorable. And ever since we've been here, her hair has totally curled up. My mom said she looked like a cherub. And, she does!!! That's what her hair looks like. And of course she is an absolutely adorable and intelligent child. :0) Anyway night ladies. Hope I changed the subject. Now you can all talk about my wild trip. I'm actually getting offline so my mafia buddy can call me. lol We were supposed to get together before I left, but he had to go out of town so it didn't happen. Bye for now. Hope we can all get over the gay and lesbian thing and realize that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and lifestyle. :0) Just talk about how much fun I have. ha ha. Way too much! I do love it though. Back to reality tomorrow. :0( Well, gotta go offline and call my Anthony back. ciao ladies. :0) Paris email: pariscosby Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 02:41:08 (EDT)) Golly, I seem to be the only one who took the silent road, which if you asked anyone who knew me, they would find that quite hilarious. So here goes, after all it is only fair that I get to add my two cents. Alice-I can understand your shear frustration to predjudice and intolerance. I happen to be the product of an inter-racial marriage, and have witnessed first hand many acts of racism. One thing that I have learned though is that anger will not change ignorance. Kahne-I think it is a shame that we still live in a society that you have to not only defend, but give a reason as to why your sexual preference is what it is. I'll be damned if I ever have to take the defensive for being hetrosexual, and I don't feel that you should have to either. I comend you for being so brave and coming out the way you did. You go girl!!! And by the way I love Will and Grace, and whoever said that they could totally relate to Karen, I too relate. She is HILARIOUS. Ok so I fell off the "silent road" and landed on "shoot off at the mouth road", I have now said my peace. Theressa-Here's to getting in shape- I just came home from the gym, and I am really starting to enjoy it again. LisaB-Before Caelen was born, I took Kyla on a shopping trip to pick out anything (within reason) that she wanted to give to the baby as soon as he was born, and it was to be the first present he was to receive. She really enjoyed it. Moe-After Caelen was born the hair above my temples started to thin, it came back, and now it seems to be thinning again. But I don't know what the reason is. Sorry. Alice-I'm sorry about your miscarriage, but it seems that you have a positive attitude and I think you are right everything happens for a reason. Haley- I laughed when I read your post about the restaurant, I think that all parents have felt the need to leave a 50% tip at one point or another. Julianne-I can understand taking the easy way out. And there are many times when I miss having Caelen in our bed. DH doesn't have the same feeling though. Well that is all for now, and hope that nobody was offended enough to want to lash out a my opinions, and besides, you won't change the way I feel. Chat later, paula & kids Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 03:16:05 (EDT)) Paris, just had to be the first to comment on your trip. I too have been to see female strippers in TO, and you're right it was strange. You sound like you had a fantastic time, I haven't had a night like that in a long time, but you have given me hope, afterall I know I'm a mom and a wife, but I am also only 27 and as long as the kids aren't affected I think we're entitled to some fun. (but the way things have been going, I think we just made ourselves targets at a shooting gallery LOL!!!!). Bye again, paula again Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 03:29:53 (EDT)) I have tried to not do this, but I cannot hold it back much longer. All of this talk is silly. Alice, you talk about Christi being angry, I only see angry posts from you. You said maybe the "relogious bleeding hearts" will stop now, yet you are the only one going on. Maybe I don't agree with statements made on either side, but please do us the courtesy of taking your fight somewhere else. I hope Christi will feel free to post here again soon, and I hope I will feel like doing the same--I don't need to get on here to talk about my child to only read angry curse filled messages. Thanks for taking the joy out of it for me! not wanting to get personally involved Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 10:31:14 (EDT)) Hi mommies and toddlers! Just wanted to pop in before we officially "graduate" and give you guys some exciting news about Nick....He started WALKING yesterday! He was taking some tenative steps and then all of a sudden took off! When he fell he'd look at me smile and clap his hands (thats what I have been doing everytime he did it)then he hold his hands up and say "gen,gen" his word for again. By 5pm last night he was walking all over the livingroom. Tried to call DH but he had already left so when we met him at the train station, I let Nicholas walk to him. DH was sooo surprised and excited, he took us out for ice cream to celebrate. Can you tell I am a proud mom or what???? For those of you who don't know me, I give you my stats My name is Jenni, I'm 31 and a fairly new SAHM DH - Vinnie Married for almost 2 years From Mountainside NJ DS - Nicholas 5/4/99 is our first (so far - we are working on #2) Is it too early for me to "cross over" here???? Have a great day and Hi to everyone. Jenni & Nicholas (1 in 13 days) email: njemtjen@aol.com Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 10:40:28 (EDT)) Hi there from Sue and Cam! Hey, when did this board get renamed from Toddlers Today to Cat Fight Today? LOL! Enough said - hope everyone can recognize that being individuals with all kinds of faults and peculiarities (I admit to having a list that's probably longer than most!)is what makes life living and get back to the task at hand: doing our best to raise our children in whatever way we feel in our hearts is best for them. Okay, I'm done. PARIS - you wild woman! I'm jealous about your wild and crazy week. I just called up one of my girlfriends last night and told her I felt the need for a all-nighter coming on soon. Maybe I should have called you instead! KAHNE - goof for you being so open about yourself. Sorry to hear about your past abuse. I can't say that I completely understand your sexual orientation, but am glad you've found love and happiness in your life. CHRISTI - Whoa Nellie! Take a couple of deep, cleansing breaths (sound familiar?) and relax. LOL! We don't all have to agree to be good resources for each other. LISAB - sounds like you have a good plan for letting Max get acquainted with the new baby. Of course we only have Cam, but one of my friends did something really cute with her two kids. She bought a gift from the new baby to her 26 month-old and wrote a card thanking her for being such a wonderful big sister. She was so proud! Have fun today! Paris, we know you will! LOL. Sue and Cameron email: sbarry@key.org Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 10:43:07 (EDT)) Good morning ladies..SARAH here. I haven't commented at all on the subject's. One thing I want to say is we are all entitled to our opinions, and should be able to post them if we want. But, when it comes down to people insulting other people in front of everyone....that's when the line should be drawn!! I am very open to gay people. Hell, my BEST FRIEND is bisexual!! And you know what...she's a great girl!!! I am not a prejudice person AT ALL!!!! Only against White Supremisist's (sp.) ICK!!!! ALICE, you have the most beautiful little boy!!! I have dated black men and hispanic men. OK, I don't know what my point was there. :) I'm loosing my train of thought, so I'd better change the subject. Let's just try and keep this a friendly forum, and if you can't say something nice, DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL!!!!! I wasn't able to post yesterday because I had HANNAH with me at work. DH had to work at the last minute, so we didn't have a sitter. Needless to say, I didn't get any work done. She was in such a flirty mood. She was just adorable, and everyone fell in love with her. Oh ladies, I think we're hitting the Terrible 2's EARLY!!! She is just awful at times!! It's so frustrating! How about yours?? Well, today is the 1 year anniversary of the Columbine shootings. That's all everyone is talking about. I just keep sitting here thinking what I was doing when it all unraveled. Sooo sad! OK....Personals.... ALICE - I'm so sorry about the miscarriage!! Please email me anytime. I love chatting with you. We sound alot alike!! :) I know I've said this before, but you have a GREAT looking family!! And you and DH look super together...very nice looking couple! :) :) MOE - Your shoe story was hilarious!!! Reminds me of Pretty Woman! 94 degrees????? I love that kind of weather! DARLEEN - Thanks for the info on the bottle. Did NOLAN take the bottle for a long time? PARIS - OMG....we could hang out together sometime. You sound exactly like me with your trip. We'd have fun together!! :) I've actually been to a ti#^#% bar a couple of times. It is different, huh?? My friend was a stripper for a long time. I sent you some pictures. Did you receive them? CHARLINE - How is HAYDEN feeling? I hope you have a fun trip. It is cute how she wants to say goodnight to the moon. But, try explaining to her when the moon's not out...AND SHE WANTS TO SEE IT!! LOL HELEN - Sorry about AMANDA's fall. How is she? SHANNON and MELISSA - WELCOME. HANNAH doesn't eat very much at all when she's teething. She'll eat if she's hungry. JULIANNE - Hope TEQUILA's better soon!! ++++ Thanks for the info on the bottle. I do give her a bottle with water at night when she wakes up. Too cute about COLTON talking in his sleep. SARAH g. - Sorry to hear about your grandma!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY SOFIA!!!!!! THERESSA - I guess the timing just wasn't right. Sorry about your disappointment. LISA - Thank you for the info on bottles. My sister brought presents to the hospital for TYLER (3) to open when RYAN was born. That made a difference. I think it's a GREAT idea!! MEG - I'm glad to hear HANA's feeling better! :) KAHNE - Thanks for being honest with us. It's funny, cause when you told us, I wasn't one who's mouth dropped open. It was like, "Oh, okay". I guess I'm just so used to it with my friend. Someone asked about time-outs?? I think it was SUE. I don't think it's too early to start them. HANNAH's ped encouraged it at her 15 month appt. We just do it when it's very necessary. I tell her what she did wrong, and put her in her room for a couple of minutes. She's always good when she comes back out. OK, that's all for today! Take care ladies! Oh, and thanks for being my friends!! :) Sarah and Hannah (19 months) email: smoore@geatoir.cfer.com Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 11:23:03 (EDT)) Hi from LisaB, aka the bad mommy. I was tired and didn't watch the weather last night. Last I heard it was supposed to be in the 70s or 80s today and it was 65 when we left home. I got almost to the sitters and heard a cold front is coming in and it'll be 55 by this afternoon … and poor little Max is dressed in shorts!!! Thankfully I had a romper/pants outfit in the diaper bag so the sitter can change him!!! HELEN: Thanks for the t-shirt idea!!! KAHNE: It makes no difference to me if you are straight, bi-sexual, homosexual, or frigid. I consider you to be a friend and a great Mom and a super person!!!! JULIANNE: Max also has crying fits sometimes - usually right when we get home from the sitters. He falls asleep in the car and he's groggy and grumpy and hungry and just generally ticked off. We basically have to let him just cry it out (nothing helps to comfort him) and before long he's back to himself. I agree though that it really wears you out to deal with it!! I'm glad to hear they caught Tequila's reaction quick and was able to treat it. I bet the ENTIRE family will be happy to have her back home again!!!! We are going to church for Easter and then to my MIL for lunch. Before lunch there is an Easter egg hunt for Max and all his cousins. I need to touch base with MIL tonight - I want separate colored eggs for Max so we can hide them in the open, where he can find them, and tell the older kids not to pick up THOSE eggs!! PARIS: So these guys are really in the mafia, huh?! It sounds like you had a GREAT time on your trip. If I remember right, you are in your 20s, right?! At 33 I don't think my body could handle that much excitement - LOL!!! Quinn sounds adorable with her sentences and curly hair! PAULA: Thanks for the idea of having Max buy the baby a present!!! JENNI: Nick CANNOT possibly be almost one already, can he?! Sure, come and join us. I miss hearing from you on a regular basis. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH on those precious first steps!! LisaB & Max (19 mo) & 18 wk pg email: lisa_lab@hotmail.com Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 11:24:15 (EDT)) Me again...real quick!! JENNI - YEA NICK!!!!!!!! I'll bet DH was so surprised. Yes, come over to this side if you want. I LOVE hearing about NICK (HANNAH's little boyfriend) PATTY - Where are you?? See ya! Sarah again!! Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 11:27:02 (EDT)) Hello from Rita Since I have been getting up earlier and going to the gym and Amy has been sleeping in, Amy has gotten closer to DH. Poor guy, he has felt so left out because she has always come to me and often ignored him. She fell over last night and went right to him for comfort. It seems that the time they have together in the mornings has changed their relationship. His heart just melted the other day when she came running to him saying "Papa!" when he picked her up from day care. Another Papa's girl? Alice - I am very sorry for your loss. ++++++ thoughts to you when you are ready. Lisa B - It was hard to prepare Maddy since she wasn't really ready to understand, but we did talk about the baby in my belly toward the end of the PG when it was obvious. I bought a baby doll that looked like a newborn and took that with me to the hospital, so that when Maddy came to visit, she would come home from the hospital with a baby, too. Larry and Maddy went and picked out a gift to bring to the baby before they came to visit us. Our families were also good about making a fuss over both girls and bringing presents for both of them. I don't think it phased Maddy until months later when she was upset that Amy got so much of my time - she would try to squeeze onto my lap while I was BFing Amy. Sarah - I should find out more about my business trip soon. I think I will be there May 3-5. I'll actually be staying in Broomfield and going to the Denver Tech Center each day. It would be great to meet since there will be no Baby Bash in July. Paris - What a time you had! I don't think that I could ever match your energy - not even when I was in my twenties! I need a rest after reading your post... Jenni - Welcome to the other side. Congrats on Nicholas walking. Now you will really be on your toes! Well, time to get going. Take care everyone! Rita & Amy email: ritad@home.com Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 12:27:54 (EDT)) OK...me again! RITA - I work in Broomfield, and live by DTC (Denver Tech Center). How ironic!!! Please let me know! Bye! Sarah AGAIN!!! Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 13:09:46 (EDT)) Hi Everyone Darleen here! A quick post before I go and pack before we leave tomorrow. I hope what happen this week is well behind us! It is unfortunate it got out of hand, but let by gones be by gones! I hope everybody has a nice long Easter Week-end! Happy Easter to all our little Toddlers! Don't spoil them. We didn't spoil Nolan. LOL on that one. We bought him a crawl threw tunnel and a Barney Movie. Who knows what his granparents will get him. No chocolate until he starts eatting the proper food we give him. That is my rule, and I am sticking too it. Bye for now! I hope the weather is nice! April Showers Bring May Flowers as the good ole saying goes!! Darleen & Nolan Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 16:32:16 (EDT)) Hi all, it's Michelle I'm so HAPPY, it seems that summer is finally here at last! Yesterday I cleaned everything out of the van (I can't believe how much more stuff can be in a van than a car without me actually noticing! lol) and I laughed when I grabbed my mittens from between the front seats. The boys were playing in the yard in barefeet and T-Shirts and just last week we had something like 23 cm of new snow!! Crazy this Calgary weather. Anyways... we've been enjoying the Easter fun around here - today we had our 3rd Easter Egg hunt in as many days! Riley met the Easter Bunny today and I could have let go of him and he'd have stayed on my chest he was clinging so tight. He was like a little Monkey! He wouldn't go anywhere near the bunny but wouldn't take his eyes of it the whole time. When the bunny finally came over to offer the boys an egg I put Riley hand into the bunnies hand to take his egg and he grabbed it and pulled his hand away really quick. It was so funny, everyone laughed! Personals: Paris - holy crum!! Sounds like you had a GREAT trip. lol at you getting kicked out! SUE - lol at your comment about the new name for the board. I'm staying out of it! Are you still having headaches a lot? If so, email me and I'll tell you the excersizes the physio person gave me - it instantly relieves my tension headaches!! FINALLY! JENNI - WELCOME! Of course we don't mind you coming over early. Although after reading everything these past few days I'm not sure why you'd want to! lol The board isn't usually like this so bear with us for a bit! KAHNE - So sorry to hear your troubles with your step dad. That was very brave of you to tell us and we are always here for you. Julianne - POOR COLTON!! I felt so sad for him when he was in the truck wanting his toot toot book. You must have felt just awful! Of course it happens to all of us at one time or other. With us it was the susie. Meg - I'm so glad Hannah is feeling better. OK, that'it for me. Have a great night everyone. Michelle and Riley email: mwells@telusplanet.net Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 18:41:56 (EDT)) Colton is sleeping and dinner is on the stove so I thought I'd get on here early tonight. I might even be able to squeeze in a short nap before DH gets home. Tequila update: She didn't get to come home today, they want to observe her for one more night/day because she was so quiet today and not quite acting ready to go. Luckily that will be at no charge. Colton has a nickname at daycare from one of his toddler friends, "Co-Co". He calls her "Liv", short for Olivia. His teacher was telling me that yesterday they were having the cutest conversation together. Then the teacher told him no about something so Olivia kept saying "no no Co-Co." Oh how I wish I could have been there to see that! Jenni: Congrats on Nick walking. Too cool to show him off to Dh like that. What a great welcome home from the train. Wow, he is almost 1 already. The time sure does fly. Have you always called him Nick or did that change as he became more a toddler. I ask because my sister has a son Nicholas who will turn 1 the end of May. Sarah: Colton will be with me after work Monday to help set flowers on the office workers desks. Instead of celebrating Secty Day on Wed we have an Employee Appreciation Day in the office! Let's hope he doesn't get into too much trouble--we have 3 floors to distribute them on. Lisa: Good idea for the special Max eggs. Rita: Yeah for good DH bonding time w/ Amy. Darleen: I expect lots of flowers as we have been having rain, rain, and more rain. I've run out of songs to sing w/ Colton on the drive to DC about rain. LOL Michelle: Too cute about Riley and the Easter Bunny. Wow, 3 egg hunts. Did he get lots of eggs? Have a great night everyone. Julianne & Colton 21 mo email: jjones@howardmiller.com Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 19:34:43 (EDT)) Hello. I haven't posted on this board in ages. Maybe one or two of you regulars will remember me. I am in need of some advice and really hope that someone will have some for me. I have a 20mth old DS named Elijah and a 2 wk old DD named Moriah. The problem lies with my DS. I am a SAHM and lately my DS has been very whiny and very clingy. He will be running around playing just fine and as soon as I need to feed Moriah, he wants to sit on my lap and will cry and whine if he can't. It is very difficult to feed Moriah with him on my lap and it turns out to be a unhappy feeding for both Moriah and I. I give my DS extra affection and attention whennever I have the opportunity, but it doesn't seem to be enough for him. Has anyone gone through this? Will it really get better in time? How much time is needed? I would really love to hear from any mom(s) who have children close in age. Thanks. MaryC Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 20:10:05 (EDT)) Hi All Kahne here. I am so glad to see that I was not booted off of this site. Thank all of you for being so supportive, I just wanted people to know that not all things in life are cut and dry. Alice, I am so sorry for your loss, I have been through it several times, and so have a lot of the mommies here. You have a friend in me if you ever need one. I am very ill, I came down with a sinus infection overnight. So this is going to be a short one. I am bringing Cat for her pics tomorrow, so be prepared all! I just sent DH out for chinese and he took the fart with him,and I had a minute of peace! Thank You all, and none of us should be ashamed of what we are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kahne and Cat 15 months email: kahneandsteve@megagate.com Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 22:09:44 (EDT)) Hi Everyone, Darleen here. I am scanning off a few pictures of Nolan that we took here at home. If anybody wants one please e-mail me your e-mail address, and I will send you one. I am taking him to Wal-Mart next month for his 18mth pictures so I will send those when we get them back. Bye for now!! Darleen & Nolan Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 22:20:14 (EDT)) Hello everyone Alice here, Please note this is not meant for all only to those it applies to, they know who they are: Well I had a huge post and I lost it, my computer froze, probably from all those curse words ha, ha,. Anyways, probably for the best cause I was very angry, but I have since calmed down. I have a question, why is okay for religous people to express their feelings, good or bad, right or wrong, but just because I use a few "curse words" I am such the bad person. Do you know what I have every right to post and express my thoughts and feelings, regardless of other peoples beliefs. Why is it Kahne is applauded for "coming out" and expressing her anger at all of you for being so close minded. Yes, I do recognize that her abuse was terrible, but I have been subject to verbal and emotional abuse for the past 10 years of my life by close minded prejudice people just for "who I happen to fall in love with" and I will never apologize for who I am but I feel very passionate about "educating" ignorant people. Kahne - please don't take this personally, cause I'm so happy for you for finding love and this is most certainly not an attack against you, I'm just using this as an example to state that I have every right to express my anger as well. People may be sick of me continuing with this topic but if you would leave me alone I will leave it alone. As you have guessed I am not a quiet person. I had contemplated not posting again because I was so angry, but I have every right to and I will. NOT WANTING TO GET PERSONALLY INVOLVED - you make me sick, people may not like what I have to say, but I'm not here to please anyone, at least I stand behind what I say and I print my name. You are nothing but a coward and I have no use or time for you, I'm glad I took the joy out of posting for you! I know who my TRUE PALS are on here, PARIS, SARAH, KAHNE AND PATTY, thanx for standing behind me girls, even if you don't agree with what I am saying, that's what grown people do- have discussions, sometimes heated, but we express our opinions. I would like to leave everyone with: Our future rests in a tiny mind... Not yet influenced by politics, Not yet prejudiced by skin colour, Not yet concerned with money and status, Not yet worried about size, weight or fashion, not tainted by bias. Our future rests in the heart of one... Who hasn't yet been to school, who can not read or write or play sports, who has not yet learned to speak. To guarantee we have a Future....... We need to protect, nourish, love and educate. We need to look at our new beginnings, The Future is in our hands. Bye for now, P.S. - thankyou sooo much to everyone who has had us in their thoughts, it has meant so much. I have a question for the ladies who have miscarried, my stomach is very hard and a little painful, is this normal, doc says I should go to hospital, but I don't want to, maybe I'll wait til morning see how I feel. Oh Yeah, the whole purpose of being here, Nathan is doing great! HAPPY HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE, HAVE FUN EGG HUNTING. Alice & Nathan (almost 3) email: alicita@idirect.ca Thursday, April 20, 2000 at 23:37:04 (EDT)) Hi mommies. The past three days have been so busy and yucky. We had Kindergarten Round Up today and our farm field trip yesterday, which was very COLD! I had cheerleading meetings tonight and Tuesday night for Jaime. She is being awful - doesn't understand why I won't let her go to a boy's house when no parents will be there. Jarin is being his normal sweet self, and so is Jesse, thank heaven. Otherwise I might be losing my mind. So, did I miss anything? LOL LOL LOL **Julianne: Thanks for the compliments on my boys. How funny that Colton is talking in his sleep. I probably would've cracked up too. I also have to tell myself to leave the housework, etc and just pay attention to my kids. Sometimes I need to forget the computer!! and pay more attention to them. LOL Poor Tequila! Our kids are also getting little gifts, a small Easter basket and we'll hide some eggs in the house for Easter. "No no Co Co" - how cute is that??? **Theressa: I dont' know whether to say sorry or congrats on your pg result. Sounds like you guys wanted a baby, but weren't sure at the same time. LOL. I suppose all things happen when they are supposed to, right? **LisaB: Love the di-pa for diaper. Jarin calls it a "bop". LOL. He also loves to have his socks off and his piggies out. Actually, he loves to have EVERYTHING out. heehee. Too cute about the hide& seek game. **Sarah: AKA Thumper: (If you can't say something nice... - sorry I couldn't resist!) Too cute that Hannah loves the moon. I finally got Jarin to notice it the other night. Then he was looking for it in the house up on the ceiling. LOL. Hope you are doing ok with the anniversary of the Columbine shootings. I'm sure it's hard for you. Thanks for asking about me. And hey, I thought Jarin was Hannah's boyfriend - now she's going out with Nicholas too??? **Sue: Glad you figured out why you were so annoyed with dH, but sorry to hear AF is becoming an unpleasant surprise again. **Rita: Yay for having your last dental visit? I will send pics of my boys your way. Sorry I missed you. (And boy will you be sorry you asked - now you'll get them all the time! LOL) **Helen: I haven't read all the posts yet, but so far I agree with your views. **Jamie: I also have a unique perspective - somewhat like yours. My mom and dad divorced when I was 13 and my mom now lives with a "friend" who my dad claims destroyed their marriage. My brother discovered(?) he was gay when he was a teenager and now lives with his partner who two years ago found out he has AIDS. Right now, I just try to accept everyone in my family as they are and I pray that my brother will not get AIDS and his partner, also like a brother to us all now, will keep the AIDS under control with medication so my brother won't have to go through the grief of losing someone he loves. **Moe: Too sad what you had to go through growing up because of prejudice. I'm sorry, but I have to laugh at your bigger feet, no hair and flatter chest! My hair fell out when Jarin was about 4 months until he was about 7 months, but it's stopped now. **Meg: Glad to hear that Hana's chicken pox are getting better. **Charline: I hope Hayden is feeling better. Poor little guy. His first cold with a cough? Wow, that's great. How did you keep him so healthy for so long? I used the regular Dimetapp and just gave him 1/2 tsp. about a half hour before the plane took off. **Katy: LOL at Liam throwing his food on the floor. Sounds just like Jarin! **Shannon: Welcome to you and Melissa. Jarin goes through stages where he doesn't eat either. I just keep asking him if he wants something. I suppose if they are in a lot of pain maybe they just don't feel like eating (?) **Rebecca: Good to hear from you. I wish we could do some walking. It's turned cold and yucky here again. =( **Sarahg: Happy Late Birthday to Sofia and happy early birthday to Isaac! Sorry to hear about your grandma. I'm sure she was glad to be around your kids when she felt so awful. **Alice: So sorry to hear about your miscarriage. **Jenni: Welcome. Feel free to cross over any time. That's great that Nicholas is walking! I'm sure DH was really excited. Are you sure you want to join over here? I've been gone a few day and I'm not sure I want to come back! =) **Michelle: So Riley wasn't too into the Easter bunny, huh? **Kahne: Hope you are feeling better soon. Hope everyone calms down now. I'm kinda glad I wasn't posting the past few days. Take care everyone and I hope to talk to you all again tomorrow. Patty and Jarin email: tematheny@ctlnet.com Friday, April 21, 2000 at 01:12:54 (EDT)) Hi Everyone, Thank goodness it is the weekend. It is the first long weekend in Canada since Christmas, unless you count the day or two off when one or both of the kids were sick, and if you're anything like me you hardly consider those days as a holiday. I am really excited for Easter this year. I think Caelen may get the idea of looking for eggs, and Kyla is nearly bursting at the seams. I think that she still believes in the Easter bunny. There were not many personals today, unless of course my computer is just being funny. Question- Is there such a thing as Holy Thursday in the US?? I had a woman call me and ask if we were open today (work for govt), and I told her yes, she then started yelling at me that she had to call 5 different #'s just to find out that we were open, so I had to ask why she thought we wouldn't be open, and she responded that she was from the States and that it was Holy Thursday. Just curious. Alice-I thought that was a lovely poem that you posted and so true. Well I'd say happy Easter now, but who am I trying to kid, I'll be back tomorrow. time for tubby bye byes ( ok i'm sorry, I just couldn't resist). Paula & Kids Friday, April 21, 2000 at 03:12:42 (EDT)) Good morning ladies...SARAH here. HAPPY, HAPPY FRIDAY!!! :) :) Actually, this week went pretty fast. I like that!! HANNAH gets more shots today. She's going in for her 18 month check-up (even though she's almost 20 months!!!) This doctor is so booked. I tried to reschedule this appt. but couldn't get in until AUGUST!!!! NEVERMIND! DH has to take her today. I'm gonna have her get the Chicken Pox Vaccine. She was in SUCH a good mood yesterday. It was great, cause the last couple of days she's been a handful!!!! DARLEEN - Hope you have a good trip. I scanned my email, and see I have pictures from you!! Can't wait to see them! JULIANNE - I hope TEQUILA gets to come home today! Hope you and "CoCo" have fun at work on Monday! :) :) MARY C. - I remember you!! :) However, I can't help you out. I do know the same thing happened with my sister. It did get better, but it was hard for a while. KAHNE - Hope you feel better. I want pictures when you have them. ALICE - I LOVE that poem!! Ain't it the truth??!?! PATTY - Oh, the joys of having a teenager!!!! LOL If HANNAH's anything like I was, I wish I could skip those years! Yes, it was a hard day yesterday. Very emotional! Thanks for the kind words! :) HANNAH used to look for the moon on the ceiling too. So she would take a flashlight, and shine it on the ceiling...and call it the moon! LOL What can I say...HANNAH's kind of a hussy! LOL LOL :) PAULA - I, personally, have never heard of Holy Thursday. Well ladies, I hope you all have a very HAPPY EASTER!!! :) Talk to you all on Monday. I'd try the chat on Saturday night, but we're having friends over. Take care ladies and little one's!!!!!! Sarah and Hannah (19 months) email: smoore@geatoir.cfer.com Friday, April 21, 2000 at 10:35:17 (EDT)) Hello from Rita It's a short workday today since I have to go home and pick the girls up at noon so that our DCP can take a mini vacation (to visit Tara and Adriana). Amy looks very different to me all of sudden. I finally put my finger on it last night - her face has changed - she's gone from looking like a baby to looking like a lttle girl. Boo hoo, no more baby. She's already trying to reach door knobs, small as she is. She's just into stuff so much earlier since she has Maddy to emulate. Patty - Hey welcome back! I can't wait for the teenage years - NOT! I look foward to pics of your boys. Paula - No, there is no big deal with Holy Thursday or even Good Friday in the States. Maybe a few shop owners close during 12 to 3 on Friday, but the government does not observe Holy Week. Mary - Hello! I had a few problems with Maddy wanting attention while I BF Amy, so I can sympathise. One of the best suggestions I read was to try and read to your toddler with one hand. I would often have her snuggle next to me on the other side. Hang in there, it should get better. Alice - Nice poem. Thanks. Kahne - Hope you feel better soon! Darleen - Please send pics! Well, I had better get some work done this AM. Have a great weekend and Happy easter to those who celebrate it. Rita & Amy email: ritad@home.com Friday, April 21, 2000 at 12:32:30 (EDT)) Hello Ladies. Is it save to get on "Board" is the water calm?? Anyway, I had this long post and I hit "Clear and Start over"! AHHH! Lets see if I can remember it. I have a little funny story about AJ. The other night I was trying to put AJ to bed. He was messing around. Pointing at my eyes, nose, etc. He put his finger in my mouth and I thought "Hey this tastes salty" The little "booger" put a "buggie" in my mouth!!! He thought that was funny!! ME...Gross!!I hope that put a smile :) on some faces!!! Darleen** My favorite show is "Who Whats to be a Millionaire" Too!! I am hooked. You know I won 125,000.....at home of course! I have to make sure the food is served and dishes washed...NO ONE BUG ME!!! AJ likes to watch it too. It is funny he knows when to clap. Meg **I am glad HANA is better. LisaB - Cute about playing Hide and Seek. I don't really have any advice on you baby coming home. My boys are 4 years apart. What I did with my son is that the was the "Official Diaper Getter" He felt important. Now he tells me "What I am I your slave!" Kahne and Cat - HELLO Julieanne - Sometimes the DH's need time with unhappy children. It lets them know what we go through on a daily..hourly basis! Last night I was doing bookwork and AJ was crying for me. DH calls up "He wants you"..Deal with it,I am busy!!! LOL Paris - Your adventures made me tired just reading!! Theressa - Sorry obout the disapointment. Sarah - I will send the heat up to you. Do you want some wind too. We had a heck of a windy day yesterday. Winds 40 mph gusting up to 55. Can't smile when you are out...the dirt gets in! Patty- So you think it is funny, huh!? LOL I guess I will have to live with size 9 feet and 34 AA bra!! I loved nursing because I was at my dream size...B Cup !!! HA HA Alice - Did you get a DNC? Maybe you have some tissue. I miscarried at home so I did not have a DNC. I do remember my stomache being hard and painful. Are you still passing clots? I would see if you can get in to a DR. It takes awhile for your uterus to get back in shape I would think. I hope I helped you. Well I better get back to work. I will post later most likely. Remember I am by myself today! Have a Happy Easter!! Moe and AJ Friday, April 21, 2000 at 13:02:47 (EDT)) Hi from LisaB. Max's latest thing is standing in a little round trashcan of his (it's always empty). He'll get both feet squeezed in there and just giggle!!! SARAH: I heard on the news yesterday that it was the 1 year anniversary of Columbine - I'm glad noone "did" anything awful (at least not that I heard of) to commerate the ocassion. I took Max to work with once for 1 hour and got NOTHING done!!! RITA: Good job, going to the gym so much. How great that Amy is getting more attached to DH!!! DARLEEN: DH went over to MILs last night - she got Max a big stuffed chicken for Easter that DH said is probably as big as Max. He'll either love it or be terrified of it - LOL!!! MICHELLE: So poor Riley was scared of the Easter bunny, huh?! JULIANNE: Co-Co is such a cute nickname!!! MaryC: HI!!!! I've been thinking about you and wondering how Elijah was adjusting to Moriah (as Max will be right at 24 months when baby #2 is born). I'll be VERY curious to hear what advice you get. KAHNE: I hope you recover quickly from your sinus infection. ALICE: Nathanial was one of my name suggestions for the baby to DH. He likes the name but vetoed it as he works with an annoying Nathan. The current name of choice is Nicholas (Nick). PATTY: You mean mom, not letting your 15 year old go to a TEENAGED boy's house (full of raging hormones) without any adult supervision. What kind of monster are you?! LOL!!!! Max's latest thing is wanting to chew on his diapers after I take them off (while I'm putting a new diaper on). The diapers are all folded up and taped so he can only chew on the outside but it's still GROSS!!! PAULA: Holy Thursday isn't an official national holiday in the states. The only "celebration" I've really heard of related to it is that the Pope eats with 12 priests or bishops and washes their feet, in remember of the last supper. MOE: YUCK!!! I can't believe AJ put a booger in your mouth!!! LisaB & Max (19 mo) & 19 wk pg email: lisa_lab@hotmail.com Friday, April 21, 2000 at 14:33:47 (EDT)) Hi..me again. I'm really bored today at work. Well, DH just called and HANNAH's appt went well. She was almost 25 pounds! :) I decided not to have her get the Chicken Pox Vaccine. I don't think I'll have her get it. I don't know!! What do you all think?!?! She did get 2 other shots. :( LISA - There were a couple of schools that were shut down yesterday due to bomb threats. Pretty sad!!! OK, that's it. BYE! Sarah again Friday, April 21, 2000 at 14:46:03 (EDT)) Hiya ladies from Sue and Cameron. I'm at work busy, busy, busy trying to get stuff done before being on vacation next week. Of course I just HAD to take a break though and check in with you guys. Last night Cam did the cutest thing - I was reading him The Foot Book by Dr. Suess. Anybody familiar with that one? It goes through pages of all kinds of feet, then gets to "Well Feet, Sick Feet." I said "look at the poor sick feet" and he took his bottle out of his mouth, leaned forward, and kissed the feet in the book. My sister was over and just about melted it was so sweet. We're going to Conn. to visit my parents for the weekend (my birthday is also on Sunday, so I figure I'll get some cake on top of some candy - just what I need...NOT!). When we were there for Christmas Cameron did not sleep well, so I'm hoping to catch the Sleep Fairy and pack her in the diaper bag for this trip. The rest of the week we're hoping to get some yard and house projects done and take a couple of short trips with Cam, maybe to a petting zoo or park or the beach. Hope those who celebrate it have a very Happy Easter and great week next week. Don't anybody do too much exciting when I'm gone (well, except for Paris the wild woman)! And no fighting! ha ha :^) Sue and Cameron email: sbarry@key.org Friday, April 21, 2000 at 15:03:42 (EDT)) Hi mommies. OMG - is anyone else having a terrible time loading this page? It is taking, literally, over an hour and a half for me to get to the end of it. What a pain!!! I've used almost Jarin's whole naptime trying to get to the last day's posts. It is really starting to tick me off! **Paula: Yes, there is Holy Thursday. It's the Catholic celebration of the installation of the Mass and of Jesus's Last Supper. **Sarah: This week went fast for you? I only had to work four days and I swear it lasted three weeks. I'm glad Hannah has been so happy for you. I didn't get Jarin the chicken pox shot and now I wonder if I should. Too cute Hannah makes her own moon with the flashlight! And yes, these teenage years just are NOT fun. As if things weren't bad enough already, she came home at midnight last night. Curfew in our town for kids under 18 is 10:45. Needless to say, she's grounded for the rest of the weekend and she thinks I'm the biggest b*tch that ever lived. Yay for Hannah checking in at 25 lbs! **Alice: Loved the poem. So true. **Rita: Pictures are on their way! The teenage years are awful. I think Jarin is into more than Jesse was too since he has Jesse to look up to. =) **Moe: Ewwwww - a boogie in your mouth!! Too gross! Too funny that AH thought he was funny doing it though. Jarin also loves to clap at "Who Wants to be a Millionaire?" DH is hooked to that show too. Ok, now I am laughing harder at your size 9 feet and 34AA bra. You are a riot. =) **LisaB: Jarin has a big stuffed chicken that he got from my MIL for his birthday last year. He doesn't pay too much attention to it, it just sits on the little bench in his room and looks cute. =) I know, I know, with my teenager (16 1/2) I think I just earned your nickname of the Mean Mommy Monster! Yucky on the chewing on old diapers!!! **Sue: Too cute that Cameron kissed the sick feet. That used to be one of Jesse's favorite books. I can still remember it. Left foot, left foot, left foot, right. Feet in the morning, feet at night..... LOL **Off I go mommies. If they don't archive soon I may not be back for a while. I just can't spend this long trying to get on here!!! Love to you all. Have a Happy Easter!! Patty and Jarin - 19 3/4 months email: tematheny@ctlnet.com Friday, April 21, 2000 at 17:43:13 (EDT)) I thought it is almost time to go home and I would just post again. I worked too hard today!! Sarah * AJ got that vaccine. Does it make them get a milder case or what? I felt bad that he got it, that day he had a total of 5 shot!! : ( Sue * Cute about kissing feet. AJ is always wanting to smell our feet. Yucky esp DH's : 0 What is wrong with my child??!! Feeds me buggie pie and smells feet!! Patty * Are you still laughing??What is it like to buy bras in the womens section? I am always in the teens..so you can imagine how pretty my bras are!!!LOL I did not have any problems loading at work. My home computer is slow...but not that slow. At the beginning of the posts, do they start deleting them so it won't take so long to scroll down?? Well I hope everyone has a special day on Easter Sunday with your little ones. I am not quite sure what we will be doing but I am sure my kids will enjoy. Moe Again Friday, April 21, 2000 at 18:55:26 (EDT)) Thanks to the few people who responded to my post. I however have come to realize that learning to take care of 2 young children is actually that - a learning process. It is gradually getting easier. I will not be back to check for any additional posts since it does not seem like there is a pat answer anyways. Lisa B. - Just keep in mind that the first couple of months will be difficult, but that it is only a temporary condition. I have to talked to several women in the same situation as me and they too had to struggle in the beginning. It does help to talk about it and I am glad that I found other women to "talk" to via e-mail. Bye. MaryC Friday, April 21, 2000 at 20:26:10 (EDT)) |